One dungeon per patch!?

[Omymy]

You do realise the insane bulk of content we got in 5.1 right? Compare the amount of stuff we got 3.1 or even 4.1. We got ishgardian restoration, BLU, ultimate, and a complete overhaul of crafting/gathering, new game +, and a new PVP mode. Don't pretend that casual players are losing out because top end raiders have exciting content.

But do you know what I was talking about specifically, or did you pick out four loose phrases and get wonderland in your head?

I said that between dungeons or a difficult version of these or a battle that interests a tiny part of the playerbase, I'll take the first one. Next time you let me know and I'll draw you a picture or something.

The developers have explicitly stated that ultimate is designed to not be a drain on resources. They use reused assets, and don't play any part on the lore. The only "expensive" thing about ultimate is the ending of alexander ultimate, and that was likely done because the developers see ultimate as a success. Why do they see ultimate as a success when so few players do it? Because constructive feedback is almost unanimously positive, and XIV saw a huge boost on sites like twitch where I believe it was even trending during UCOB and UWU.

FFXIV on twitch... what happened, it went from 4 viewers to 100?, it's still a laugh number. Go over to some Method stream and cry.

A totally success, yeah, I'm completely sure that the entire casual population (the vast majority that makes up the game itself) were crazy about Ultimate coming, hahahahaha. Jesus Christ man.

The likes on your posts compared to those who disagree with you, as well as the replies to your comments put you, ironically, in the minority here. Maybe try to understand what people love about ultimate rather than crying that you can't do it (or maybe suck it up, get a static, and make it a goal of yours).

You are right, the opinion of this forum where 30 people participate compared to the million and some players is a very valid scale. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you're right. There's nothing to do with those people who will like anyone who disagrees with me because they've eaten a few baits.

[Lambdafish]

But do you know what I was talking about specifically, or did you pick out four loose phrases and get wonderland in your head?

I said that between dungeons or a difficult version of these or a battle that interests a tiny part of the playerbase, I'll take the first one. Next time you let me know and I'll draw you a picture or something.

Let me quote exactly what you said:

Introducing "content" that even 80% of players don't try is a very smart decision. Who would doubt that. (sarcastic tone implied)

You didn't say it wasn't to your taste, you said it wasn't a smart decision. Something which is untrue, as I have said, SE sees the content as a success. As for your weird comment about 100 viewers, like I said XIV became a trending game on the site during ultimate prog. Look at the statistics and correlate the spikes in views to 4.11, 4.31, 5.0 and 5.11 https://twitchtracker.com/games/24241 This is actual data that we can see, not 100 viewers, tens of thousands.

Amazing so a crafting base content done in 3 days.
A limited job that no one care about after 1 week.
A revamp of crafting system which is not content.
A feature for those who have bought story skip potion or are so bored in game but can't stop playing for a while.
A new area to press & key 3 times in a row.

Content is content, whether you enjoy that content is up to you, plenty of people do (hint, BLU parties are still prevailant in PF despite it being released a month ago, with people who actually do the content enjoying themselves, I wouldn't call that "nobody caring")

[Omymy]

Let me quote exactly what you said:



You didn't say it wasn't to your taste, you said it wasn't a smart decision. Something which is untrue, as I have said, SE sees the content as a success. As for your weird comment about 100 viewers, like I said XIV became a trending game on the site during ultimate prog. Look at the statistics and correlate the spikes in views to 4.11, 4.31, 5.0 and 5.11 https://twitchtracker.com/games/24241 This is actual data that we can see, not 100 viewers, tens of thousands.



Content is content, whether you enjoy that content is up to you, plenty of people do (hint, BLU parties are still prevailant in PF despite it being released a month ago, with people who actually do the content enjoying themselves, I wouldn't call that "nobody caring")

https://twitchtracker.com/games/18122

Compare numbers and cry, please. But as i said, you are right, the number of likes in this forum clearly show what the entire playerbase like and don't like. Don't let up, buddy, everybody lies to themselves the way they want to.

[Lambdafish]

Don't let up, buddy, everybody lies to themselves the way they want to.

Sure, but they are still making ultimates (probably an extra ultimate compared to last expansion), and producing content I want, while reducing the amount of content I don't want (dungeons), I don't see how I lose.

I do feel like scrapping dungeons for adding ultimate among other content does set this bad precedent that they are willing to stop developing content that appeals to most players in favor of developing content that only a very few will even attempt.

Ultimate is designed not to take up resources. We could have 3 dungeons per patch and still have ultimates, we wouldn't get anything like Eureka, BLU, ishgardian restoration, or any of the many other pieces of casual content that we have gotten though. Lack of development resources isn't the reason dungeons are being cut anyway, the huge amount of dungeons already implemented, and the interest to make new and different content is.

Also appeals to most players is a stretch, accessible to most players is more accurate

[Omymy]

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This guy lives in The Truman Show.

[ForteNightshade]

Amazing so a crafting base content done in 3 days.
A limited job that no one care about after 1 week.
A revamp of crafting system which is not content.
A feature for those who have bought story skip potion or are so bored in game but can't stop playing for a while.
A new area to press & key 3 times in a row.

I spent more time on Ishgard than I have in the Grand Cosmos, though I imagine that will inevitably change now that I moderately care about capping tomes again. A friend of mine literally did the dungeon once and never again. For us, everything you listed was better overall.

FFXIV on twitch... what happened, it went from 4 viewers to 100?, it's still a laugh number. Go over to some Method stream and cry.

A totally success, yeah, I'm completely sure that the entire casual population (the vast majority that makes up the game itself) were crazy about Ultimate coming, hahahahaha. Jesus Christ man.

MrHappy and Xeno averagely roughly 500 viewers. When UCoB released both jumped to 10,000. Those numbers became more spread out with UwU since more and more people were streaming their progression, which Lambdafish already highlighted. Now consider everything in both UCoB and UwU is 100% reused assets. No new models, animations, designs or anything. In fact, the devs revealed somewhere around 90% of their budget for UwU went into engage. Basically, the whole fight was cheap to make yet it garnered ten of thousands of views on arguably the largest streaming platform in the world. Not hard to deem that a smashing success. So much so, they decided to add new models, animations and even a whole cut scene to TEA. A developer doesn't increase the budget of content unless it's proven successful. At least not a smart one.

[Omymy]

I spent more time on Ishgard than I have in the Grand Cosmos, though I imagine that will inevitably change now that I moderately care about capping tomes again. A friend of mine literally did the dungeon once and never again. For us, everything you listed was better overall.



MrHappy and Xeno averagely roughly 500 viewers. When UCoB released both jumped to 10,000. Those numbers became more spread out with UwU since more and more people were streaming their progression, which Lambdafish already highlighted. Now consider everything in both UCoB and UwU is 100% reused assets. No new models, animations, designs or anything. In fact, the devs revealed somewhere around 90% of their budget for UwU went into engage. Basically, the whole fight was cheap to make yet it garnered ten of thousands of views on arguably the largest streaming platform in the world. Not hard to deem that a smashing success. So much so, they decided to add new models, animations and even a whole cut scene to TEA. A developer doesn't increase the budget of content unless it's proven successful. At least not a smart one.

Asmongold have 50k viewers while farming plants in WoW Classic.

Good job Mr.Happy, some quality content.