Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
If they had it on by default you would have aggro ping pong, and you would most likely get cleaved. Imagining alliance raids with that would be absolutely horrifying.

In current content really it should just be:
MT has stance on, pulls
About 4 gcd's in OT can put on stance
Pending on the job combination OT may need to turn it off and turn it back on to avoid stealing aggro, but can also shirk as well if needed.

That's it.
Or simply, leave Stance off if you're the OT and -IF- the MT dies (they really shouldn't, but sometimes things happen), you have several seconds to use Stance, Provoke and then use nearly any skill on him and he's yours. Even if the boss did look at someone else, if someone unloads a Foul crit, or Barrage+Refulg, or what-not, your next attack should get it right back on you.

I've done this I don't know how many times, even while focused on another target. Such as Shiva's Ice Golems (admittedly I already had stance because I was the one picking up the golems), or heck I've picked up Susano a few times when they let the MT die. It really doesn't take long to throw stance on, provoke and hurry up and get the boss facing away from the group while you move it to where you want it.

What I hate even more is when the MT gets up, and gets a heal... first thing he does is he tosses a provoke and proceeds to fight me for aggro.

.......while rez weakened. Derp.