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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    I understand where you are coming from, but I guess the reason why it bothers me is because I know how the internet is. Take one walk through Limsa Lominsa and look at all the ERP going down (at least in NA, not sure how it is in EU or JP).

    Playing as a child is different than playing as a different race or gender because I feel like they will be used in sexual situations and often dressed provocatively. And the RP will just be really weird.

    I have no doubt that this will be a very small minority as most people that want to play as children probably just want to for aesthetic reasons and nothing more. But all it takes is one or two doing something tawdry, someone posts it on social media, and just like that SE has a PR nightmare on their hands.

    I will say that in all my years playing MMOs I have never seen this request until I started playing FFXIV. So, admittedly, this is very weird to me.
    I don't put much thought into what other people are up to...like the erp you mentioned in Limsa...I'm aware people are doing something there but as long as it's not being broadcast in chat (which it normally isn't when I'm there) I don't really notice.

    Many of the female player characters I see in the game look about sixteen, if I think about it, but I guess I'm supposed to assume they're older. That's what strikes me as strangest about the whole thing, there's already an abundance of very young girls of unknown age everywhere in the game. My mom plays and her Au Ra girl looks about the same age as my daughter! Of course I know her character is an adult because I was teasing her about the apparent age difference between her and my dad's characters. Lol

    Anyway, aside from how it sounds "on paper" to people who will never actually play, I don't get the big deal over having "official" underage characters when anyone could be playing a fifteen or sixteen year old. That's why I keep reading these threads, knowing full well people will never agree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarPuff View Post
    Anyway, aside from how it sounds "on paper" to people who will never actually play, I don't get the big deal over having "official" underage characters when anyone could be playing a fifteen or sixteen year old. That's why I keep reading these threads, knowing full well people will never agree!
    No. Some people want to play as actual children, not something that might look young. A child. As in, literally. A human-like child. So not the lalafell weird produce toddler aesthetic, but human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    No. Some people want to play as actual children, not something that might look young. A child. As in, literally. A human-like child. So not the lalafell weird produce toddler aesthetic, but human.
    I meant I don't get the big deal the other way around. I guess you could also argue that it's not necessary since we can already make underage characters but my intended point was the opposite, that I don't see why making it official is upsetting. I guess it kind of works both ways, that would restrict it to just teenagers though which seems silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarPuff View Post
    I meant I don't get the big deal the other way around. I guess you could also argue that it's not necessary since we can already make underage characters but my intended point was the opposite, that I don't see why making it official is upsetting. I guess it kind of works both ways, that would restrict it to just teenagers though which seems silly.
    The issue is the people who are going to inevitably put a succubus glam on their child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    The issue is the people who are going to inevitably put a succubus glam on their child.
    While a hassle, they could do alternative armor models for the child like race. As for players? Not sure why anyone should care. Creepy? Yes. But it impacts no one in particular negatively.

    Damned if I ever understand people having issues with (age rating appropriate) suggestive content in video games.

    Anyways, yeah, I can still see why SE would want to steer clear of this can of worms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    While a hassle, they could do alternative armor models for the child like race. As for players? Not sure why anyone should care. Creepy? Yes. But it impacts no one in particular negatively.
    They could, but even if they did you would have much of the very same people advocating for "child-like" races in an uproar. They would probably make faux argument like, altering items they paid real money for, grinded for, etc.

    It is definitely not something SE wants to deal with, and I support them on that front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    They could, but even if they did you would have much of the very same people advocating for "child-like" races in an uproar. They would probably make faux argument like, altering items they paid real money for, grinded for, etc.

    It is definitely not something SE wants to deal with, and I support them on that front.
    Not sure what to think of their stance on this. If its a decision made due to the ethical reasons stated? Yeah, sure, possibly I can get behind their decision (even if I disagree with it on principle).

    However, I have a nagging suspicion at the back of my mind, that its just a corporate decision to avoid the western vocal feedback, and they themselves have no real personal qualms about it. Which again... I would understand, but corporate dishonesty is something I deal with (and exercise in) daily in work and annoys the living hell out of me when I cross it in my personal time.

    Eh... maybe I'm just too jaded at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    The issue is the people who are going to inevitably put a succubus glam on their child.
    Yeah, that's what I hear. It's just odd to me that someone might get worked up over that but not care about all the player characters that already exist and appear to be teenagers. I would probably still be neutral even if we all looked old enough to legally drink, but the issue would make more sense. As it is, I already see provocative glams on what appear to be kids so the main difference would be making it official and possibly a very slight change to the model. I'm not in favor of that, because it does seem too small to be worthwhile, but due to how most of us would look more appropriate sitting at a high school desk than a bar stool, I wouldn't argue against it either.
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