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  1. #11
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Maybe.... I abandoned Eureka early on, so I can't speak to the arsenal as content... but couldn't that be considered that we lost 4 dungeons so that they could make 1?
    In SB, you 'lost' three dungeons. (4.1, 4.3 and 4.5 only having one dungeon as opposed to the 2 per patch in HW.)

    You 'gained' the Arsenal, two Ultimate fights, and four zones for Eureka. With quests, several Notorius Monster fights per zones, and the logos system in the later two zones.

    If you don't think it's worth it fair enough, but Eureka had a lot of casually available content. It's just debatable if that was good content.
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  2. #12
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    Yay, ultimates, that content who all people can access easily.
    I'm sure ultimates are beneath a WoW Mythic+ veteran like you, but please try to understand that us casuals need something to do as well.
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  3. #13
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    I'm sure ultimates are beneath a WoW Mythic+ veteran like you, but please try to understand that us casuals need something to do as well.
    I think he was being sarcastic.
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  4. #14
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    Omy Song
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    Moogle
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    I'm sure ultimates are beneath a WoW Mythic+ veteran like you, but please try to understand that us casuals need something to do as well.
    Im sure they are, but I have a bad habit of thinking in general and not just about myself.
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  5. #15
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    Yay, ultimates, that content who all people can access easily.
    Its still content and its content people have been asking for, even if those might have been a vocal minority.
    One thing I'd like to point out though is that even if someone doesnt actively particpates in Ultimates or gets their clear, its still content they can access easily - at least in a sense. I'm saying this because I know quite a few people who arent intrested in giving those Ultimates a try themself, but who never the less enjoy watching streams/videos of world-first-clears and the like.
    Yes, I know thats not them playing the game or anything and they're not actually getting content that they can (or want to) play through themself, but it might actually be more engaging and fun to watch 8 other people beat their heads against one of those Ultimates, follow their progress etc. than rush through yet another dungeon...

    I can only speak for myself here when I say that while I dont dislike dungeons and enjoy running them the first couple of times (since they're usually intresting/beautiful looking places, with new music, maybe some lore-bits etc.) they've also never really been the height of innovation and gameplay-experience. They feel a lot like "diet food": Something everyone can eat, maybe even enjoy at times but at the same time rather bland.
    While I personally didnt like Eureka, I'd rather have them try to come up with new, different types of content that dont have to cater to everyone anymore (thought maybe not as extreme as the Ultimates) instead of going the "lazy" route of throwing out dungeons.
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  6. #16
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Good change all in all. Hopefully we'll get something that actually lasts more than 20 minutes.

    Also, Hrothgar head gear...
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  7. #17
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Then they came for the MSQ--and there was no more Eureka and we just dance in Limsa all day.
    It was at that moment that we became what we must.


    We became...THE SIMS OF DARKNESS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  8. #18
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    Crimson Law
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Wait, I was under the impression we just weren't getting two dungeons this patch because they were adding an extra trial to take the place of the second dungeon. Where did I miss them saying that they were only doing one dungeon every patch from this point on?
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  9. #19
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    Vari Myste
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    Famfrit
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    Fisher Lv 100
    If it means more content, I'm happy for it.

    Having more variety in my daily EX roulette isn't as important to me as having a wider variety of things to do once I've done my daily EX roulette.
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  10. #20
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    Diaval Alucard
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroFists View Post
    Then they came for the first dungeon—and there was no more dungeons and you do MSQ through Eureka.
    Yes, remove all dungeons and give us more Eureka!!
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