Retainer Quick ventures

[hynaku]

5000 gil per hour per retainer while they're mostly equipped with my secondhand gear? Sounds like a deal.

Even without the chance for higher rarity items, that's a welcome steady trickle.

And if they bring back untradeable gear... you can probably hand it back to your GC for more seals than it costs to buy two ventures!





Wait, you can still get the Garo gear from ventures?

Yes you can still get it from retainers quick ventures. I got whm garo staff and 2 monk gear pieces so far after garo event ended. Just like can get 1.0 items still from them that's not suppose to be in game anymore.

[Erendis]

Are you sure you are not confusing it with parrotbeak etc sets? I farmed loads of quick ventures during event and and after and never got Garo piece. Since you say you already got 3 Garo pieces, they can't be rare...

Mado staff looks like this

[Halivel]

Leveling and gearing them to 80 and nice ilvl to get 5k is totally worth, doesnt it.

I imagine if you were paid 100$ a month for 8 hours of work a day you'd think it was great, right?, wow, the american dream.

They level pretty much by thmselves, though, player does almost nothing for it personally. Along the leveling way everything you need is buying clothes from NPC vendors at max. At max level you can gear them with clothes that you don't use anymore by yourself. Sending them to the venture iself costs 2 coins (that are very easy to get in horrific amount) and after that you are free to do whatever you want for an hour, it's not like you obliged to sit there waiting for them. So yeah, 5k loot isn't bad, considering you can do few runs per game session depending on your online and in long time perspective they will bring you much more gil you spent on them.
Also one more thing: if every retainer would bring rare and valuable item from every run they do, this item will not be nor rare or valuable anymore. It will be generic trash loot that costs 5 gil due to being common. So in the end... nothing changes.

[hynaku]

Are you sure you are not confusing it with parrotbeak etc sets? I farmed loads of quick ventures during event and and after and never got Garo piece. Since you say you already got 3 Garo pieces, they can't be rare...

Mado staff looks like this

So your saying Mado Staff isn't the white mage Garo weapon that my retainer brought back?. Also do have more than 2 retainers all at max level with best gear on them. Each week I use 100's of ventures for my 8 retainers on quick ventures. So far got monk half finger gloves and the robe to them.

[tdb]

So your saying Mado Staff isn't the white mage Garo weapon that my retainer brought back?. Also do have more than 2 retainers all at max level with best gear on them. Each week I use 100's of ventures for my 8 retainers on quick ventures. So far got monk half finger gloves and the robe to them.

Mado staff is the WHM Garo weapon. I'm a bit confused here; did you retainer bring back the Mado staff or some other WHM weapon? I haven't received any Garo items from my four retainers in all of the time since the event launched.

[Omymy]

They level pretty much by thmselves, though, player does almost nothing for it personally. Along the leveling way everything you need is buying clothes from NPC vendors at max. At max level you can gear them with clothes that you don't use anymore by yourself. Sending them to the venture iself costs 2 coins (that are very easy to get in horrific amount) and after that you are free to do whatever you want for an hour, it's not like you obliged to sit there waiting for them. So yeah, 5k loot isn't bad, considering you can do few runs per game session depending on your online and in long time perspective they will bring you much more gil you spent on them.
Also one more thing: if every retainer would bring rare and valuable item from every run they do, this item will not be nor rare or valuable anymore. It will be generic trash loot that costs 5 gil due to being common. So in the end... nothing changes.

You're right. I've come to my senses, and I think the retainers should bring us flowers and trash. Not worth more than 4k, of course, no one deserves such treasures.

[Halivel]

You're right. I've come to my senses, and I think the retainers should bring us flowers and trash. Not worth more than 4k, of course, no one deserves such treasures.

You didn't get the point at all it seems.

1. 5k loot from retainer isn't bad considering you can do few runs per day on few different retainers and as result have not bad profit per day with doing nothing but paying 2 coins and 3 seconds for this profit.
2. Common loot doesn't cost much not because it's bad, it doesn't cost much because it's common.
3. Price for the item is setted by players. Market economy, you see.
4. Going from 2 and 3: if you will get loot that is rare now and because of it costs more in every venture run it will not be rare anymore and so will lose its price.

Conclusion: retainers ventures is an almost free gamble game that works in combination with market economy that is setted on your server. You either get common loot that doesn't cost a lot because it's common or you get something rare and make good profit on it because it's rare. That's it. It's same gamble as Gold Saucer MGP tickets: you get nothing or something or everything depending on your luck with Japanese random.

[Krotoan]

Ok, i missread the message and though I should improve even more the stats/ilvl to get best prizes.

So once you recieve this message, lets say at DoW ilvl450, if gear the retainer at 470 the chances of worth stuff are the same then?

I'm reasonably sure there's no particular difference once you've cross the "can get rare items" threshold as there is no noticeable change in the message even when you have your retainer kitted out in near BIS items. The pool is determined mostly by (I think) the job of the retainer and their level. I won't state these as fact because I don't know for sure, but I've been getting the same things others have reported as "super rare" while just having the bare minimum to trigger the message. Also note it cares about ilevel, not appropriate stats (all my DoL retainers are wearing castoff DPS accessories and still get the rare message) .

[Iscah]

You didn't get the point at all it seems.

He gets the point, I'm sure. But you do see certain people being contrary and argumentative in every single topic they enter, and if you talk sense they'll just find something else to complain about.

[Barraind]

Leveling and gearing them to 80 and nice ilvl to get 5k is totally worth, doesnt it.

You really shouldnt be doing quicks with level 80's unless you really dont have anything else to collect and want a chance at randomly pulling -anything-.

Pulling seeds, topsoils, crafting mats, or 18 hour ventures for a better chance at minions is a FAR better use of them.