Retainer Quick ventures

[Avidria]

Leveling and gearing them to 80 and nice ilvl to get 5k is totally worth, doesnt it.

I imagine if you were paid 100$ a month for 8 hours of work a day you'd think it was great, right?, wow, the american dream.

I wouldn't call 5k generous, but it isn't expensive or difficult to level and gear retainers well enough to get a chance at better loot from ventures. I'm swimming in ventures just from handing in trash dungeon gear and the "junk" gear my retainers do bring back, and my hand me down newbie gear that I replaced just from doing L80 content has my retainers more than geared enough to bring me back shinies, at least on my combat retainers. They can even wear the free 430 AF sets (assuming you've done the quest for them).

There's very little work involved beyond remembering to even send them out, and you've got a shot at getting a whole lot more than 5k worth of loot from quick ventures. I've had stuff worth 500k+ come back from a quick ventures, and I've got plenty of metallic and white/black dyes for my needs thanks to them.

I mean, I wouldn't complain if SE made rewards more consistently valuable, and I'd like if they kicked some of the REAL junk off the loot table (Like giving one single wind shard. I mean, really?), but I also don't see a problem with how it works now. Low effort and quick return for bonus loot on a roll of the dice. Not exactly comparable to being severely underpaid for actual real life labor.

[Halivel]

Leveling and gearing them to 80 and nice ilvl to get 5k is totally worth, doesnt it.

I imagine if you were paid 100$ a month for 8 hours of work a day you'd think it was great, right?, wow, the american dream.

They level pretty much by thmselves, though, player does almost nothing for it personally. Along the leveling way everything you need is buying clothes from NPC vendors at max. At max level you can gear them with clothes that you don't use anymore by yourself. Sending them to the venture iself costs 2 coins (that are very easy to get in horrific amount) and after that you are free to do whatever you want for an hour, it's not like you obliged to sit there waiting for them. So yeah, 5k loot isn't bad, considering you can do few runs per game session depending on your online and in long time perspective they will bring you much more gil you spent on them.
Also one more thing: if every retainer would bring rare and valuable item from every run they do, this item will not be nor rare or valuable anymore. It will be generic trash loot that costs 5 gil due to being common. So in the end... nothing changes.

[Omymy]

They level pretty much by thmselves, though, player does almost nothing for it personally. Along the leveling way everything you need is buying clothes from NPC vendors at max. At max level you can gear them with clothes that you don't use anymore by yourself. Sending them to the venture iself costs 2 coins (that are very easy to get in horrific amount) and after that you are free to do whatever you want for an hour, it's not like you obliged to sit there waiting for them. So yeah, 5k loot isn't bad, considering you can do few runs per game session depending on your online and in long time perspective they will bring you much more gil you spent on them.
Also one more thing: if every retainer would bring rare and valuable item from every run they do, this item will not be nor rare or valuable anymore. It will be generic trash loot that costs 5 gil due to being common. So in the end... nothing changes.

You're right. I've come to my senses, and I think the retainers should bring us flowers and trash. Not worth more than 4k, of course, no one deserves such treasures.

[Halivel]

You're right. I've come to my senses, and I think the retainers should bring us flowers and trash. Not worth more than 4k, of course, no one deserves such treasures.

You didn't get the point at all it seems.

1. 5k loot from retainer isn't bad considering you can do few runs per day on few different retainers and as result have not bad profit per day with doing nothing but paying 2 coins and 3 seconds for this profit.
2. Common loot doesn't cost much not because it's bad, it doesn't cost much because it's common.
3. Price for the item is setted by players. Market economy, you see.
4. Going from 2 and 3: if you will get loot that is rare now and because of it costs more in every venture run it will not be rare anymore and so will lose its price.

Conclusion: retainers ventures is an almost free gamble game that works in combination with market economy that is setted on your server. You either get common loot that doesn't cost a lot because it's common or you get something rare and make good profit on it because it's rare. That's it. It's same gamble as Gold Saucer MGP tickets: you get nothing or something or everything depending on your luck with Japanese random.

[Espritduo]

The only things that are considered the rare items are the items that say "an item most rare!" at the end of the message when your retainer brings them back. This is a separate loot pool from the other quick venture returns with specific items like cordials, dyes, the rare minions, and other things in it. Most of the "items most rare" are not actually that rare or worth much. Many "common items" that you don't need any special gear to get are actually quite valuable still. The message basically means nothing unless you specifically want something from that "items most rare!" loot pool.

[Erendis]

You can get a minion worth 500k or a crystal cluster. It's a gamble.

[Moonlite]

You should be getting bacon bits, the fish, and the dancing weapon minion with that message. It is random though I can get 2 in a day and go a months with none. You should also get up to level 79 dungeon gear. But again the most common and same from stormblood is the one dungeon shisui gear set. Desynth and vendor. Hell all the Sky rat gear vendor price makes more then 5k a day. You should also receive dyes that at least on Balmung black and white sell for over 250k. Also old hard to get glamours that are made from old map dungeon drops. If you are only doing a couple a day just do the 18 hours can still get minions and you get coins to vendor.



Some stuff comes up way more then others. You just aren't spamming them enough. Also this is just personal experience, but I always feel stuff in the game starts to even out at around 1000 attempts(yes 1000). But if you want to increase percentages you just need to keep stacking ilvl as high as you can and you will always see that message. If I remember correct, can someone correct me if I am wrong. DoL stack as much + gathering as you can on top of gear. I wouldn't overmeld but I would max every slot I could.

[hynaku]

My level 80 miner from quick ventures loves to bring me back gear. Just last week he brought back 3 Garo pvp gear items from quick ventures. so never know what they will bring back.

[Iscah]

5000 gil per hour per retainer while they're mostly equipped with my secondhand gear? Sounds like a deal.

Even without the chance for higher rarity items, that's a welcome steady trickle.

And if they bring back untradeable gear... you can probably hand it back to your GC for more seals than it costs to buy two ventures!

My level 80 miner from quick ventures loves to bring me back gear. Just last week he brought back 3 Garo pvp gear items from quick ventures. so never know what they will bring back.

Wait, you can still get the Garo gear from ventures?

[hynaku]

5000 gil per hour per retainer while they're mostly equipped with my secondhand gear? Sounds like a deal.

Even without the chance for higher rarity items, that's a welcome steady trickle.

And if they bring back untradeable gear... you can probably hand it back to your GC for more seals than it costs to buy two ventures!





Wait, you can still get the Garo gear from ventures?

Yes you can still get it from retainers quick ventures. I got whm garo staff and 2 monk gear pieces so far after garo event ended. Just like can get 1.0 items still from them that's not suppose to be in game anymore.