What is FFXIV trying to BE?

[gifthorse]

On topic, those 'buzzwords' were explained further in one of the letters from the producer. I don't care enough to look for it. They're explaining the new dev teams approach to the task they were given. 'tis fairly straight forward. As for what the game is trying to be, they're not even completely sure of that themselves yet hence the players polls. They're trying to establish exactly which direction they should be taking the game. They want the game to be a Final Fantasy title that the players want to play and they're doing their best to make it just that.

Don't come into my thread and be all "mister rational". Can't you tell this is an irrational thread?

I think they need to just come out and tell us what their intentions are with the armory system, what their ideas for content are, and how the game will play overall, including the combat system, so we can finally just move on. The only reason we're clinging on is because we think there's potential. And SE needs to confirm or deny that for us.

They must have some idea what direction they intend to take, because how else are they developing content without a direction? They must know by now that developing a game without a direction isn't a good idea. Just look at FFXIV.

[Gun_Anam]

I think they need to just come out and tell us what their intentions are with the armory system, wihat their ideas for content are, and how the game will play overall, including the combat system, so we can finally just move on.

Mr gifthorse, I normally disagree with most of what you say (albeit without actually posting my disagreement because the forum doesn't need more people arguing over minor points) but I completely agree with your above point and how it was worded.

For the most part all we have is a list of minor changes that are planned, with a couple of pieces of larger content that are being worked on (ie. Companies). I understand Yoshi P has only been in the position for 3 months (not a long time) and is making a huge commendable effort to change thing for the better. He's doing a great job, but surely one would think there is a bigger picture that includes things like the armory system, quests, chocobos, airships, etc. He has started to show us a little of what is coming up with a couple of pieces of concept art of armours which is all nice for the casual players who love that kind of stuff, but players who are more interested in game mechanics than fluff would like to know how the game mechanics are going to evolve.

[Rowyne]

I think they need to just come out and tell us what their intentions are with the armory system, wihat their ideas for content are, and how the game will play overall, including the combat system, so we can finally just move on. The only reason we're clinging on is because we think there's potential. And SE needs to confirm or deny that for us.

I think Gifthorse is saying that we need to know what direction this relationship is going, or it's breakup time.

Sort of. I wouldn't call it an NCSoft game tho. It's being developed by Arenanet who were bought by NCSoft a number of years ago but still work as the Arenanet team. Dev team is Arenanet, but customer support will be NCSoft. Arenanet have a good track record, but NCSoft's track record is appalling. From the tone of your post, I'm guessing you have the same hatred for NCSoft as I do.

Count me in on the NCSoft hate train. GW2 actually looks to be a groundbreaking game, but the fact that NCSoft is attached to it in any way, shape, or form makes it an instant dealbreaker. Customer service and NCSoft are an oxy moron. Does that company actually employ GMs....?

[gifthorse]

I think Gifthorse is saying that we need to know what direction this relationship is going, or it's breakup time.



Count me in on the NCSoft hate train. GW2 actually looks to be a groundbreaking game, but the fact that NCSoft is attached to it in any way, shape, or form makes it an instant dealbreaker. Customer service and NCSoft are an oxy moron. Does that company actually employ GMs....?

NCsoft doesn't develop guild wars... nor does it employ Arenanet's staff. It just owns the company as a subsidiary.

But whatever, if you consider some irrational phobia of a corporation (that doesn't even develop the game) to be an instant deal breaker, then it's really only your loss.

[Shelia]

NCsoft doesn't develop guild wars... nor does it employ Arenanet's staff. It just owns the company as a subsidiary.

But whatever, if you consider some irrational phobia of a corporation (that doesn't even develop the game) to be an instant deal breaker, then it's really only your loss.

well said. lol

I bet most of the people claiming they won't play due to NCsoft will play eventually, anyway. Peer pressure is a powerful thing, and if the majority of other people are playing GW2 they probably will also. lol

I hate NCsoft with a burning passion... however, I realize NCsoft's separation from Arena Net. People act like NCsoft is influencing Guild Wars 2's development, when in reality they have nothing to do with it (other than funding Arena Net).

[Rowyne]

But whatever, if you consider some irrational phobia of a corporation (that doesn't even develop the game) to be an instant deal breaker, then it's really only your loss.

It's not an irrational phobia. I have no desire to ever give that company another dime, so that means removing myself from anything that will provide them with money. It's more of a boycott issue.

[gifthorse]

It's not an irrational phobia. I have no desire to ever give that company another dime, so that means removing myself from anything that will provide them with money. It's more of a boycott issue.

I guess that makes more sense now.

But I'm pretty sure NCsoft won't miss your patronage, considering you are but one person. So again, they aren't really losing anything, but you might be (if the game turns out to be good, for example).