[request] Could we please fix 2b leggings for lalafell?

[Mimilu]

IF they do "fix" the legs for female lalas, they should also do it for all the male races too.

[TwiibieTwuu]

Out of curiosity, how is it ironic?

Both Hrothgar and Viera feel highly unfinished. lack of hairstyles, no head gear, locked to one gender, etc

So two unfinished races saying a finished race needs to be removed. is just kinda funny...

heck i was really tempted to fantasia from miqo'te to Hrothgar until i learned of the no headgear and hair locked to faces.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Wait... Do lalas even have butts? ;P

[GhostMoonstride]

why do you want to sexualize a childlike race?

Clothing, or lack thereof, is not inherently sexual. That's a *you* problem.

If you've seen children before, in game, or irl, you would realize they do not look like the lalafells.

If you've played any amount of the game, MSQ, and especially side-quests, you would note that the *game itself* does not treat lalafells as though they are children. Plenty of lalafells speak about drinking, engage in heavy drinking, solicit sex, run brothels, engage in human trafficking, murder, poison others, commit suicide, go "skirt-chasing" etc. The males have, in several instances of the story, flagrantly spoken about these things in very deep voices, as well as indicated they are quite old, and experienced.

Lalafells. Are. Not. Children.

SE went so far as to allow both male and female characters to wear the 2b. I think it would be nice if they didn't confuse this issue more by changing the underthings of what is basically a fully-functioning, adult, halfling/dwarf/elf race. SE literally calls them dwarves in parts of the story. Dwarves are adults, because they're "ugly" but lalafels are often cute, so they're children? Does this make all cute, adult, humans into children?

[LittleImp]

Clothing, or lack thereof, is not inherently sexual. That's a *you* problem.

If you've seen children before, in game, or irl, you would realize they do not look like the lalafells.

If you've played any amount of the game, MSQ, and especially side-quests, you would note that the *game itself* does not treat lalafells as though they are children. Plenty of lalafells speak about drinking, engage in heavy drinking, solicit sex, run brothels, engage in human trafficking, murder, poison others, commit suicide, go "skirt-chasing" etc. The males have, in several instances of the story, flagrantly spoken about these things in very deep voices, as well as indicated they are quite old, and experienced.

Lalafells. Are. Not. Children.

SE went so far as to allow both male and female characters to wear the 2b. I think it would be nice if they didn't confuse this issue more by changing the underthings of what is basically a fully-functioning, adult, halfling/dwarf/elf race. SE literally calls them dwarves in parts of the story. Dwarves are adults, because they're "ugly" but lalafels are often cute, so they're children? Does this make all cute, adult, humans into children?

mental gymnastics ahoy


they're written like that in game because the devs think the juxtaposition is humorous.

Halflings/dwarve/elves in western fantasy settings almost always have the physical features/proportions associated with a sexually mature humanoid, so conflating the two is pretty disingenuous. It really has nothing to do with ugly/cute.

[Skivvy]

mental gymnastics ahoy


they're written like that in game because the devs think the juxtaposition is humorous.

Halflings/dwarve/elves in western fantasy settings almost always have the physical features/proportions associated with a sexually mature humanoid, so conflating the two is pretty disingenuous. It really has nothing to do with ugly/cute.

That picture you linked is just describing the outfit. There is more to the comment that people always seem to crop out.

[LittleImp]

That picture you linked is just describing the outfit. There is more to the comment that people always seem to crop out.

Sure, let's assume that's true!

Why are they putting the totally-not-based-on-children race in children's clothing?

Specifically, the base racial clothing set that's supposed to reflect the fundamental aesthetic qualities of their respective races..

Huh, that's a little odd ain't it!

What do you think would happen if you showed concept images of Lalafells to a complete stranger who was unfamiliar FFXIV, and asked them to describe them? Do you /really/ think they wouldn't immediately compare them to children?

[Miracle_Diva]

Fixes any lalafell glamour related problems.
/s

[Skivvy]

Sure, let's assume that's true!

Well, it is true.


"Originally modeled on a spirited kindergarten-aged boy. The smock and satchel were adapted for adventuring. It occurred to me after that if Lalafell were taller, this might resemble a <can't read> in Dragon Quest<someone with better eyes confirm this last bit?>

Why are they putting the totally-not-based-on-children race in children's clothing?

Specifically, the base racial clothing set that's supposed to reflect the fundamental aesthetic qualities of their respective races..

Huh, that's a little odd ain't it!

As far as using a child to model clothes - Lalafell barely hit 3' as a max height. I'm thinking a kid was probably easier to find vs. a dwarf for sizing purposes. In addition to that, the exert mentions how the outfit was outfitted for adventuring. I've never once thought that the outfits have looked like children's clothes. They fit in just fine with the other racial outfits (several which also include a dress/skirt variety for their females).

What do you think would happen if you showed concept images of Lalafells to a complete stranger who was unfamiliar FFXIV, and asked them to describe them? Do you /really/ think they wouldn't immediately compare them to children?

I'd say Lalafell fall more into the chibi category as they are definitely cute and tiny and a bit more exaggerated in their shape than the other races. I do think that Lalafell, out of all the races, are definitely the most childlike - but I've never viewed mine or any as an actual child. The game also doesn't view or treat them as children either. As it was mentioned earlier in this thread, there are Lalas doing plenty of horrible things in this game, none of which would be suitable for an actual child to be taking part in.

[GoddessReiana]

Serious each of your point of views is honestly just being racial though in a game lalafell I find cute essentially adorable because they small and sound adorable and I don't second a rework Lalafells are fine as they are