Parsing? Drama? ToS? Solution!

[Coatl]

The solution would have been to not allow in the BLM in the party in the first place. If people want no drama they'll just look at your logs when you join their group. If you don't meet their standards you'll be promptly removed for someone better. This will most likely be done without anyone saying anything, as no one wants to risk getting hammered by a GM.

This way there's no drama, no chance of ban as there's nothing to trace. Sad it has to be this way.

[Moonlite]

The solution would have been to not allow in the BLM in the party in the first place. If people want no drama they'll just look at your logs when you join their group. If you don't meet their standards you'll be promptly removed for someone better. This will most likely be done without anyone saying anything, as no one wants to risk getting hammered by a GM.

This way there's no drama, no chance of ban as there's nothing to trace. Sad it has to be this way.

Just want you to take a second and think of what you said. Now think you are SE. Lets see if we can agree on a few things before going on. SE has tried to set the bar low, they want the game to be inclusive as possible, and they allow tools with a don't ask don't tell policy. Now imagine the very casual players SE tries to help by making the game easier in the first two points. Those players are being excluded heavily by a tool that is a don't ask don't tell. It might not even be that they are being excluded based on that alone, but the perception by a certain percentage of the players. Still following hopefully. Do you think SE would have to take some sort of action to continuing protect the much larger casual player base over the much smaller and using non sanctioned tools high end progression group.





I have come to the wish about meters and similar tools. Make the third party tools illegal and the sites that post numbers from them take them down. Have what they deem high end progression exclude any random party making. And give those people a dps meter and a finished number that they can screen shot. Once they deem those instances no longer high end with ilvl increase remove the meter. They have meters, they have recorded stats in pvp, and they seem to be able to hide meters. Included it with patches. They don't find a solution that some what works this is only going to get worse.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

The solution would have been to not allow in the BLM in the party in the first place. If people want no drama they'll just look at your logs when you join their group. If you don't meet their standards you'll be promptly removed for someone better. This will most likely be done without anyone saying anything, as no one wants to risk getting hammered by a GM.

This way there's no drama, no chance of ban as there's nothing to trace. Sad it has to be this way.

This just create new Drama...a Black Mage Main or a BLM player is being denied access to content.
If groups just kick you outright for playing BLM, or you cant form groups because you play BLM, or if you matchmak and people leave because there is a BLM, that doesn't solve anything and it sure as heck doesn't help somebody improve.
Gatekeeping isn't good, its part of what creates all these nerfs and weird buffs to things

[tdb]

This just create new Drama...a Black Mage Main or a BLM player is being denied access to content.
If groups just kick you outright for playing BLM, or you cant form groups because you play BLM, or if you matchmak and people leave because there is a BLM, that doesn't solve anything and it sure as heck doesn't help somebody improve.
Gatekeeping isn't good, its part of what creates all these nerfs and weird buffs to things

She meant checking fflogs for this particular player who happened to be a BLM, not discriminating against BLMs in general.