The Frontlines Premade issue has not been fixed.

[Iceboy]

PVE casuals ruining PVP for people who like pvp because they can't form their own parties/improve themselves? Nothing new under the sun I guess.

Waiting for Top 100 feast to be gone and just hand out free season rewards for everyone and a kiss in the forehead.

[Ahzuran]

PVE casuals ruining PVP for people who like pvp because they can't form their own parties/improve themselves? Nothing new under the sun I guess.

Waiting for Top 100 feast to be gone and just hand out free season rewards for everyone and a kiss in the forehead.

There's plenty of people who are good at PvP who are welcoming these changes. God forbid we like some competitive games when none of our friends are online in a casual PvP mode like frontlines.

[BloodRubyXII]

There's plenty of people who are good at PvP who are welcoming these changes. God forbid we like some competitive games when none of our friends are online in a casual PvP mode like frontlines.

Don't kid yourself, absolutely no-one is good at this game. People just suck less than others.

[Nedkel]

PVE casuals ruining PVP for people who like pvp because they can't form their own parties/improve themselves? Nothing new under the sun I guess.

Waiting for Top 100 feast to be gone and just hand out free season rewards for everyone and a kiss in the forehead.

Oh no, they took away our 24 man premades vs randoms unbalanced matches, what should we pro pleyers do now?! Git personal skills gut? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Devils_Lawyer]

I love these new changes.

I mean lets be real, do not pretend that premade 24 man groups are after anything other then total domination for easy wins, those who truly claim to care about pvp beyond simple rewards should welcome a more balanced pvp for more exciting matches.

[Rhais]

I love these new changes.

I mean lets be real, do not pretend that premade 24 man groups are after anything other then total domination for easy wins, those who truly claim to care about pvp beyond simple rewards should welcome a more balanced pvp for more exciting matches.

The matches aren't more exciting, nor is it more balanced. My first match of today we won by over 1100 points, it's just random chance now, that isn't a positive change. There isn't an even skill distrubution, it isn't any more "fair", there are still completely one sided matches and the general quality of the matches hasn't improved, there hasn't been a bunch of really close matches with good plays on all sides today. You queue up and either get enough people with a clue to pretty much dominate as before, or you spend a match unable to do anything as people spam alliance chat with "don't chase <se.3>" "fall back <se.1>" "objectives > kills"

[Moonlite]

The matches aren't more exciting, nor is it more balanced. My first match of today we won by over 1100 points, it's just random chance now, that isn't a positive change. There isn't an even skill distrubution, it isn't any more "fair", there are still completely one sided matches and the general quality of the matches hasn't improved, there hasn't been a bunch of really close matches with good plays on all sides today. You queue up and either get enough people with a clue to pretty much dominate as before, or you spend a match unable to do anything as people spam alliance chat with "don't chase <se.3>" "fall back <se.1>" "objectives > kills"

A few matches I had today two GC were within 200 points at the end of the match. They felt a lot more even. Also saw multiple players from different GCs get achievements with win. Almost all I ever saw before was Maelstrom. I would still like to see 8 mans brought back with some more adjustments. Instead of a knee jerk reaction to the premades look at how they affect random games and how that can be mitigated to keep it at least partially competitive for all involved.



You are right at this point SE has no system in place to distribute skill to even out teams. But it is way fairer then the old system. The old system had zero chance to randomize players. No one seems to comment on this little tidbit in the patch notes.
To improve randomization of party members in Frontline campaigns, players are no longer assigned according to their Grand Company membership, and are instead treated as being freelancers.

"Further adjustments to this feature are planned for future updates."



The old system could never get better and could be abused. No one can argue that point. I won't hold my breath, but this is a necessary step to building a better matchmaking system. I wouldn't be surprised though if we don't see another update working on matchmaking till 6.18.

[Devils_Lawyer]

things

I found them to be more even then they used to be atleast, even so i rather have a system that relies on a bit of rng then one where my odds are stacked against me every single time because of premades.

[Ahzuran]

The matches aren't more exciting, nor is it more balanced. My first match of today we won by over 1100 points, it's just random chance now, that isn't a positive change. There isn't an even skill distrubution, it isn't any more "fair", there are still completely one sided matches and the general quality of the matches hasn't improved, there hasn't been a bunch of really close matches with good plays on all sides today. You queue up and either get enough people with a clue to pretty much dominate as before, or you spend a match unable to do anything as people spam alliance chat with "don't chase <se.3>" "fall back <se.1>" "objectives > kills"

Not every game is gonna be an even match. You're still gonna get some one side games from time to time but still better than a single Grand Company winning 100% of the time.

The matches aren't more exciting because PvP in this game is a complete mess due to various fundamental technical issues, lack of serious matchmaking, blatant unbalance, and constant changes to the mode with little to no player feedback. Now add an apathetic player base and you get an aspect of the game that's always gonna be doomed to fail.

[Devils_Lawyer]

Everyone is going to have a different experience both pre change and after the change, some people will notice a increase in wins, some will notice a decrease in wins....its to early to tell and in the end its SE that has all the numbers and will be able to notice if there has been a overall increase in balance or not.

That said from personal experience i was in Adders when the new pvp map launched and alltho i que as freelancer i never ever got into the mael GC, overall my win ratio was about 10%.

I am now in mael gc (changed cause i wanted to see if the grass was greener on the other side ) and since this new change im at 40% win ratio after 25 matches.

Dosnt rly conclude much over such a small number of matches but there it is anyway

edit: thats weekly win % btw.