I can only assume the reason SE decided to prevent 8 man premades was to break up full alliance premade ( a particular problem on aether with adders) while letting people still play with their friends, just in smaller parties. Having one alliance be coordinated while the others are basically PUGs makes matches incredibly one-sided and no competition at all. I assume not allowing 8 man parties was to make things more fair. I could be wrong, but I don't know.
The problem is that this hasn't changed anything. The premades are all still in adders and still queue together to get into the same match as one. They are broken into smaller parties, but they are still all in the same GC and are funneled there. I won't go over the specifics of how they do it, but I believe the easiest solution to fix this is to make it so that premade groups are forced into the freelancer mode, even if all members are in the same GC.
Edit for those saying Queueing as a premade puts you into freelancer. This is only true for the frontlines roulette, not queueing directly into an FL match.
This is false. They absolutely are on VC using discord. I'm apart of the same discord and have even been in VC with them. The discord even encourages other GCs to join and do the same.
I think you misunderstand me. I want a healthy PVP FL. Having one premade absolutely crushing everything they are in isn't healthy. I know the competitive spirit sees that line of thought as blasphemy, but a fighting chance is what makes PvP more enjoyable, even for the losing side. What this specific premade trick does is not fun or interesting or competitive. It's borderline abuse of the system to stomp. Like I said, if this wasn't what SE was trying to prevent with the change, then I get it. If they were, it didn't work at all. I find it more fun with premades are fighting other premades, not when premades are stomping PUGs.
Sadly this isn't the case on Aether. There was actual groups that get together on discord and voice chat to organize and abuse the queue system to be a premade together to stomp PUGs. I don't blame them for doing it. I just want to see premades fighting each other more often than premades stomping PUGs. Makes for more interesting fights.
Premades are fine if there are other premades to fight them. As it is now, at least on Aether, they are all stacked into one GC and stick together instead of fighting each other for a healthy FL.
I'm attempting exactly that, but if there are groups of premades, why aren't they fighting each other, why just fight PUGs?
This is a false representation. Premades vs premades are fun and healthy. Them fighting each other with PUGs sprinkled in makes things fun for everyone. Premades vs PUGs are the problem. Especially when all the premades that are focused together and in one specific group (on Aether). They all sit in VC and gloat about how they stomp PUGs. It's not about being better players. Even they admit there are better ones that aren't in their group. It's about having one GC stacked and the other just being loose PUGs by abusing the queue system. But to give them credit, some are actually trying to od the same for other GCs But on Aether it's pretty much only ingrained on Adders.