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  1. #201
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    Astrophysx's Avatar
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    *SE watching how premades play in 5.1 Frontlines.

    SE: "Oh, they're all Diamond and Platinum tier players.

    *SE notices the premade destroying the competition.

    SE: "Oh, they're all WHM and spamming Dia to kill everybody."

    *SE notices that all the big ice spawned, but none of them are broken.

    SE: "Oh, they're ignoring the objectives, and the other teams are dead before they reach the ice."

    *SE notices the premade won by kills alone.

    Yoshi P: "Yeah, lets get rid of 8v8v8 and reduce the premade party size to 4."

    All-in-all, I think the results will be the same. LMAO
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  2. #202
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    Ayaka Brea
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    On Chaos DC, I saw some premades of 4 but they rarely played together in the same GC (thanks for random GC when playing in premade), most of the time, they played against each other. And it's funny to see them fighting each other because of competition.

    Besides, for me, it's much easier to eliminate a premade of 4 than 8.
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  3. #203
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    BloodRubyXII's Avatar
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    Owa Owa
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBond007 View Post
    Besides, for me, it's much easier to eliminate a premade of 4 than 8.
    Because a lot of the time, you got a premade of 8 in a 24man - which is an entire GC. 4 is now half an Alliance in 24man teams, so obviously.
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  4. #204
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    Naes Aeraki
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    The queue sync has moved from Adders to Flames on Aether xD
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  5. #205
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    Ryphen Darconel
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustNaes View Post
    The queue sync has moved from Adders to Flames on Aether xD

    Would explain why Freelancer keeps putting me on Adders when it always used to put me on Flames.
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  6. #206
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    Shiva
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    Since Adders are ruining the game with their premades, Flames and Maelstrom should work together and prevent them to win.
    I see great frustration because of Adders.
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  7. #207
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    R'lasha Nereshyl
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    I think the GC Sync issue was made apparent due to the restriction of premades to 4 from 8. Before the change, premades would queue in groups of 8, and would end up generally playing against each other with the forced party freelancer system. This lead to less one sided games due to the fact that the skilled premades were all playing against each other, which make it so that you couldn't synchronise a whole 24 person team of premades like we have now. Therefore, you have PvP discords made up of skilled players and the like taking advantage of the no-freelance setting and all joining the same team.

    The skill differential is also exacerbated by the size of the map, since Onsal Hakair is significantly smaller than all of the three previous maps, leading to more access to fighting between teams. This leads to more points by killing. It also doesn't help that you don't need to control a point like in Seal Rock and so they are free to chase and kill anyone they please without repercussion since they don't need to defend anything, so they base camp.
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  8. #208
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    Naes Aeraki
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenfiddich View Post
    Since Adders are ruining the game with their premades, Flames and Maelstrom should work together and prevent them to win.
    I see great frustration because of Adders.
    You mean since Flames are winning. Right now on Aether there are Flames premades running.
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  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustNaes View Post
    You mean since Flames are winning. Right now on Aether there are Flames premades running.
    Like i've said in another thread you've posted this. Sorry do hear that. I've heard SE is going to fix this. It's getting better, hopefully.
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  10. #210
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    Thread title should be changed to:

    The people not wanting to learn, wanting to be carried, afking, not wanting to coordinate, not wanting to play as a team, complaining about "premades" when the issue is most don't want to play together and learn, wanting things easy, refusing to listen to callouts, and generally being an uncooperative dodo has not been fixed.

    Guess that title is too long though.
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