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    I don't think in many cases people are taking issue with what he actually got banned for, in terms of being toxic towards another player, it's pretty obvious he was being a massive jerk, that's not really what the problem is for us who seem like we may be "defending" him. The issue is, it's a pick'n'choose case, something SE like to do very much. One day you can do something that should get you permed when reported, but won't, the next day someone else gets reported for telling a player to "stop being bad at the game" and they'll get a two week. Flaming is nothing new to hardcore raid streamers, if you're going to ban Arthars then simply put, you have to ban all of them for the same reason, but they won't. They just chose to make an example out of this singular case as a deterrent, and that's bad. Was a bit like when I got sacked from my job a year ago, I got sacked for crashing a forklift and the tldr of it was, I got made an example of that accidents due to carelessness were no longer a slap on the wrist. No-one had a problem with the fact I had an accident and got sacked, it was more they happened on a daily basis, people had done worse and gotten off with written warnings, so why was my case any different lol (someone chopped someone else's finger off and kept his job).

    If I was that sad of a person and pathetic I could pull vods from probably every single popular streamer that uses ACT and has ever trashtalked another player's performance, I would put my house on the fact you wouldn't ban any of them. I'm obviously not going to do this because that's well... pathetic, and no1 likes a grass lol. Let's be honest again - Arthars got hit because there was no way SE could justify to the "victim" that he was still streaming every day after being reported because then he'd KNOW no action was taken and wonder why and they would never be able to explain it (jk "we don't accept 3rd party evidence")

    In setting this example, SE breeds the very clique culture that people claim is elitist and not welcome in the game - and that is where if you're new or bad - you will never get anything done in this game because all the half decent players will form their own groups just to get away from you and not get banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    In setting this example, SE breeds the very clique culture that people claim is elitist and not welcome in the game - and that is where if you're new or bad - you will never get anything done in this game because all the half decent players will form their own groups just to get away from you and not get banned.
    I still remember in another game when, as a healer who hadn't grouped much, I was told to bring mobs to the tank. The tank did so in a polite manner, not yelling or bashing me for running around with mobs beating on me. I also remember standing in front of a boss, not thinking about my placement, and the tank telling me I should move out of the aoe range. That too was told to me in the same manner.

    You can be an "elite hardcore raider," best of the best however "best" is define, top of the charts, yadda yadda yadda, and still not harass other players or even be condescending when pointing out things you think they should be doing or not doing. It's not a fine line between the two.

    "From my experience it's better to not stand there as the boss spits out goo and wipes people" - nobody will ever get banned for saying that

    versus

    "You're a dumbass for standing there. Don't you know how to play this game?"
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