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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    Shall I introduce you to my dear old friend the Dictionary and Informal English? (source) Let's not get nitpicky over trivial things, ta.
    Dictionary.com is the furthest thing from the definitive source of the English language (the Oxford English Dictionary is). The key is in your link: Informal English. Dictionary.com includes so many informal and colloquial language, which are not words by the authoritative sources. If you write a paper at any college or university worth their salt, and write the word funnest, it will be circled and marked, "not a word."

    As for all the others who throw around "Grammar Nazi," you're just too funny. I guess it's an unrealistic expectation when browsing an English forum for posters to use actual words? This is why society is going down the toilet.
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    I wasn't aware we were in English class, but I'll take it.

    I play white mage the most. I don't know if I would call it fun though. Intensive healing can be for me, trying to do damage while doing healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Dictionary.com is the furthest thing from the definitive source of the English language (the Oxford English Dictionary is). The key is in your link: Informal English. Dictionary.com includes so many informal and colloquial language, which are not words by the authoritative sources. If you write a paper at any college or university worth their salt, and write the word funnest, it will be circled and marked, "not a word."

    As for all the others who throw around "Grammar Nazi," you're just too funny. I guess it's an unrealistic expectation when browsing an English forum for posters to use actual words? This is why society is going down the toilet.
    Grammar lesson from forum....really dude...you maybe right as the correct saying is the most fun versus funnest is moot..lighten up which job/class do you enjoy the most

    DRK, SCH, and DRG are my favs atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    If you write a paper at any college or university worth their salt, and write the word funnest, it will be circled and marked, "not a word."
    I do not see how this is relevant here. This is neither a forum of professionals nor of students. The only two things that we all have in common here is that we have Final Fantasy 14 accounts and we all identify as English speakers, as opposed to something like Spanish speakers or French speakers. (And even then, multilingual people with a different primary language may come to the English forums anyway, for whatever reason.)

    We should keep the university stuff in the universities.

    Edit:

    As for the class/job I play, I only play DRG. I picked up BLU mage too, but that's a limited job so it doesn't count.

    I have my BRD and DRK 'leveled' to 60, but I absolutely refuse to use them because one of my family members thought it would be a wonderful idea to use skip potions on my character as 'a gift.'

    I discarded the gear, threw away the gil, and vowed to never play them.
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    Last edited by DumdogsWorld; 12-10-2019 at 06:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Dictionary.com is the furthest thing from the definitive source of the English language (the Oxford English Dictionary is). The key is in your link: Informal English. Dictionary.com includes so many informal and colloquial language, which are not words by the authoritative sources. If you write a paper at any college or university worth their salt, and write the word funnest, it will be circled and marked, "not a word."

    As for all the others who throw around "Grammar Nazi," you're just too funny. I guess it's an unrealistic expectation when browsing an English forum for posters to use actual words? This is why society is going down the toilet.

    Please don't be that guy today. :/

    As for topic, use to be healers, mainly AST but not gonna make that dead
    horse into playdoh at this point lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Dictionary.com is the furthest thing from the definitive source of the English language (the Oxford English Dictionary is). The key is in your[b] link: Informal English. Dictionary.com includes so many informal and colloquial language, which are not words by the authoritative sources. If you write a paper at any college or university worth their salt, and write the word funnest, it will be circled and marked, "not a word."

    As for all the others who throw around "Grammar Nazi," you're just too funny. I guess it's an unrealistic expectation when browsing an English forum for posters to use actual words? This is why society is going down the toilet.
    Bro, this is a forum for gaming. Not for academic papers. I don't see anywhere in the rules of this forum that says to use formal English, do you? Of course I'm going to talk/write differently here than I am going to write an article for university or business. Though, if we want to get nitpicky over grammar, here's a fun fact for you: you should never capitalise after a full colon or a semi-colon unless it's a title like Final Fantasy because it is not a period, exclamation, or question mark. The only time (outside of titles) one should capitalise is at the start of a new sentece followed by period/question mark/exclamation mark. Unfortunately, it is a very common and overlooked mistake (though, who knows? It might vary from US to CA to UK, et cetera, because they all have different grammatical rules.). Despite being a scholarly person who is well-aware of the consequences of a professor's ruthless red pen, I see you capitalised after a full colon despite it not being a title. Tsk-tsk. If you were my student, I'd circle that and give it a -5 points.

    But I'm not your teacher. :| So, I'm not going to because I don't care. Like I said before: this isn't an academic forum for academic papers. The only thing that matters here is not our language but our connection to Final Fantasy XIV; it's partly why the forum isn't JUST English. So, arguments of fun vs funnest and the rules of the colon don't really belong here.

    Now that we've got that out of the way, why don't you tell me or the general reader here which classes you find the most fun.

    Edit: I just noticed someone literally said the same thing. Woops! Sorry! But I'm glad to see that someone was on the same train of thought (or vice versa). /Highfives DumdogsWorld
    Also, thank you to the others who have been really chill. xD Did not expect that! /Highfives to the rest as well
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    Last edited by MOZZYSTAR; 12-10-2019 at 07:23 AM. Reason: Mentioned in post

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    Snip.
    To respond: the individual that I was quoting gave proper noun status to Informal English. So, when I responded to him / her, I maintained that proper noun status that was established, ergo the capitalization after the colon. In addition, capitalizing and not capitalizing after a colon are both technically correct, as they are both acceptable applications of proper English. It also does not matter what the forum's content is; when I go to an English forum, I expect proper English, as do so many others. Children know that 'funnest' is not a word, so it's not an unreasonable expectation for adults to know it is not a word as well. But, if the basic execution of a language is an unreasonable ask on a forum for that language, well, I'd prefer not to think about what that says about our society.

    As to the haters: if no one actually cares, why are so many of you triggered? Seems like an awful lot of you are defending poor usage of the basics of English, which is really sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Dictionary.com is the furthest thing from the definitive source of the English language (the Oxford English Dictionary is). The key is in your link: Informal English. Dictionary.com includes so many informal and colloquial language, which are not words by the authoritative sources. If you write a paper at any college or university worth their salt, and write the word funnest, it will be circled and marked, "not a word."

    As for all the others who throw around "Grammar Nazi," you're just too funny. I guess it's an unrealistic expectation when browsing an English forum for posters to use actual words? This is why society is going down the toilet.
    I don’t think you appreciate how flexible the dictionary is. Oxford dictionary regularly updates its news words list because, unlike you, it recognises that language is not fixed. It develops, grows, and changes, according to how people use it. It is a tool to communicate. As long as you are understood and not in an English exam, which I don’t believe we are, it is fine. Whatev got added in 2019, for goodness sake, so I think funnest can be left alone even if it is technically incorrect.

    Following on from Mozzy’s point about colons, you should also keep in mind colloquial differences based on country. In my country (UK), "Grammar Nazi," is incorrect. We would put the punctuation outside of the quotation, as follows: “Grammar Nazi”, . This is also an international site, where users may not be as fluent in English as you are. If you give people some slack and don’t hold them to a ruler, you may find you enjoy conversations more.


    Anyway, I find SCH to be the most fun, though I dislike changes made to it. I also enjoy SAM.
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    Last edited by RubixCube; 12-10-2019 at 07:30 AM.