How do we feel about tank damage right now?

[Shurrikhan]

You forgot about the"Almost Daily" part of that statement. And those conversations you mentioned have slowed to a crawl. Whereas it was a constant stream from 5.0 til the beginning of 5.1. How many threads where labelled "Yet another SMN rework" again? xD

I just find the "Muhdentity" arguement tends to be silenced by the allure of being high on the tier list.

But, again, their numbers were increased almost entirely through added pet strength, largely fulfilling the requests of the "muh identity" crowd, and fixed their oGCD bloat / QoL issues.

It wasn't just a matter of numbers being overbuffed; the identity and gameplay issues were fixed as well.

So, why would there then be gameplay complaints in response to gameplay fixes?
Why would there be players begging for more of their power to come from their pets as a response to... more of their power coming from their pets?

[Razard]

But, again, their numbers were increased almost entirely through added pet strength, largely fulfilling the requests of the "muh identity" crowd, and fixed their oGCD bloat / QoL issues.

It wasn't just a matter of numbers being overbuffed; the identity and gameplay issues were fixed as well.

So, why would there then be gameplay complaints in response to gameplay fixes?
Why would there be players begging for more of their power to come from their pets as a response to... more of their power coming from their pets?

I feel we are talking past each other.

If you read the actual suggestions made in those threads most of them,, like removing egis and replacing them with Demi's (which I disagree because it makes the Demi Summons less unique and impressive), where not addressed. And, honestly, I hope they never are.

The point is that it seems that being high on the tier list does seem to have quite a high mitigative effect on people's complaints. I used the example of SMN but this has been a recurring thing since the games inception. Then they turn around and wonder why the game is like it is.

Maybe these players should look inward and ask themselves "Did I cause this?"