[Suggestion] Remove the role restrictions on the YoRHa gear?

[rachcouture]

Having more options doesn't lead to homogenization. Restrictions do.

Not everyone wants to play a job they don't like just to wear and outfit that they'll never get to see since they're playing something they DO like.

Class identity hasn't mattered since the glamour system was put in place. See: tanks wall-to-wall pulling in bikinis. This is especially true for the Nier raid when they're literally all dresses.

I genuinely cannot get behind the mindset of anyone against unlocking glams for good to the point that reading the same, tired, debunked reasoning of those against it over and over is genuinely frustrating. There is nothing to lose, and everything to gain; you can even place artificial restrictions on yourself to mimic the old system if you really want. I don't even care if it requires me to be a level 80 BLM to wear a caster dress on my WHM. Anything is better than what we have now.

Character customization/virtual identity is paramount to the MMO genre. More is never a bad thing.

[SenorPatty]

Which same thing? Which one of the sets, given all of them would be available?

At least be honest and admit it's just a case "I don't care about it, so no one should have it" instead of making nonsense BS reasons. How in hell does unlocking the different sets for all roles = homogeneity?

It makes even less sense when someone actually queues for as the role needed to guarantee a need role, collects all the glams manually but still wants the option of mixing and matching their hard earned glams.

[Gula]

No not all gear needs to fit all roles. You want the glamour level the role and wear it.

This thank you.

[Macleod]

*Falls in love with the caster set in the dressing room as a healer thinking, "I really wish I could wear this..."*

*Remembers that all jobs can be leveled on a single character and thinks, "Ohhhhh! I can wear it!"

*queues up as SMN*

*earns full caster set in the raid*

*realizes it can only be used while playing a caster job you don't really prefer playing*

*consequently never sees said caster set because you hardly ever play that job and the game's stupid glamour restrictions prevent you from using that gear elsewhere*

*realizes the glamour restrictions are utterly stupid since 90% of the gear in the game already has no job identity*

*asks for Squeenix to remove glamour restrictions*

There you go, I finished that thought train for you!

Opening up more options creates exponentially less homogenization.

[Rasikko]

I'm done responding here... but having some things that are for a specific roles makes that gear unique for that role. It increases the diversity because not everyone can wear it. It's not a question of having every role wearing the SAM YORHA top that makes it more diverse. It just makes people look the same and I'm not in favor of that. We got at great Level 1 glamor coffer. I think that was wonderful. I also think it's wonderful that some items are role specific.

Have fun getting them to change it. If they do fine but not something I'm in favor of.

I understand how you feel there and I felt the same way, but then also I thought that novelties don't last forever and eventually people will just move on the next "glamour of the month", so some looks can still be unique over time.

[SturmChurro]

Hmm.. I don't have strong feelings over this. I have probably said in the past I am for role restrictions, they give a class identity, or class 'fantasy', but the fact that there are so many level 1 glamours, event glamours (summer sets, christmas, etc.), crafted sweaters, etc.. Class identity is already muddled. SE themselves have kind of arbitrarily chosen sets that, in my opinion, do not match the class they are locked to. I have often wanted to put gloves, or pants, or shoes from one set on another set that I think fits my interpretation of a class better than what SE has given us.

I think I would still be for class restrictions even after all is said and done. Stunts options for the player, but I think, if done right, this can be a good thing from the design perspective. Granted, YoRHa specifically I would not mind unlocked for all classes, I think SE would probably have to make new glamour alternatives or something, they would probably make some "limitations" excuse.

[Raikai]

Having more options doesn't lead to homogenization. Restrictions do.

Countless times, with any kind of subject that touches "less restrictions" appearing in these forums, shows the individuals that apparently can't grasp the concept of "optional" bound to a less restrictive environment. I suppose watching someone dressing up in a way they don't like really interfere in their fruition of the game.

The only reason the whole world is using the 2P outfit atm is because it's a new item. Every time a new item, hairstyle, new job... anything is released you'll see everyone using

[Sated]

For most armor I like that it has restrictions based on roles, because it's often designed specifically for those roles. That doesn't feel like the case here - it's all slightly varied cloth/leather looks that don't lean toward any specific role.

I see no aesthetic reason to keep the Nier looks restricted to roles, unlike most other armor.

[SturmChurro]

They already cut corners when it comes to class sets in the game. Having no role restrictions could very well lead to "homogenization". The YorHa gear (at least for female) are all effectively pieces of the same exact thing with something added or removed. Casters and healers usually just get base recolors at best anymore. On top of that, how would loot even work now? Would everyone be allowed to wear whatever gear? As in, you could wear the tank chest on your healer? Everyone can roll need on whatever? Or are their still class restrictions? Do they add level 1 glamour alternatives of the same set? Do they make more sets look even more similar since there are no class restrictions any longer (why bother? Artifact sets exemplify the true class fantasy)? Remember when it comes to regular glamour, there are few alternatives if any.

[Iscah]

On additional thought, and the assumption that they are not going to shift from the current model of "role-locked unless specifically released as Lv1 replica", the similarity of the different versions seems more like a reason why they shouldn't be (at least as a priority) chosen to be unlocked.

There's nothing new or unusual about the different roles being variations on a theme, and we already have the Lv1 2B glamour, which is a lot more than we have for many other unique high-level sets.

(My personal choice for high-potential replicas would be the Thief / Duelist / Plague Doctor sets, or there are a lot of other dungeon sets where unlocking them would give you several distinct new outfits to play with - while unlocking these would mostly give you access to some dresses that aren't that different to the one you already had.)

Generally speaking, I'm in two minds over class restrictions. They're frustrating when I want a specific out-of-reach combination, but I also don't mind playing within them and seeing what outfits I can come up with that can only be equipped by that role.

Then again, I also came up with five different previously-impossible outfits as soon as I discovered the sky pirate replicas, so... I don't know. But I do love having some actual fantasy-ish outfits as Lv1 glamours instead of the normal assortment of modern fashion.

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*asks for Squeenix to remove glamour restrictions*

There you go, I finished that thought train for you!

Actually that thought train ends with an extra step: realising they are very unlikely to say yes.

I remain convinced (forgive me if you've heard me say it before) it's quite possible that their programming would not allow them to make a specific restriction for relic gear if they opened up glamour restrictions on everything else, and that's a line they're not willing to cross. So everything else remains restricted to protect that.