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Thread: Ranged in 5.1

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    Range is good, just Bard is bad atm lol. Wouldn't say no to a HP buff but that's because I play SMN, think it'd be too easy for RDM to survive with it. Might argue that Phys range need it purely because recuperate is irrelevant if you get lbed on anything less than full hp and die anyway.

    Or maybe melee needs less survivability :thinking: Every melee is basically a bruiser at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fannah View Post
    Nedkel just said you have the range priviledge, not to be priviledged overall.
    In many games, being range means to need good positionning.
    Of course positioning is very important but when it comes to using the cone aoes in high levels of play in feast there are only two opportunites to use it, when the enemy team exhaust their burst and one of their teammates die, even with these two openings you still risk getting jumped and CC and end up using one of your additonals or pots simply because you put yourself in a bad position with little benefits from using your aoe, now look at rdm who can literally aoe at max range and be rewarded for hitting multiple people. Then the physical aoe abilites is just a button that isn’t worth using at all, which isn’t right.
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    Last edited by Shpy; 11-06-2019 at 01:59 AM.

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    I would suggest you to just wait for the balance adjustment next patch. PvP devs in ths game is known for being communicative with PvP player base (not with NA of course). The Adrenaline TV host periodically and will invite players of a designate server to PvP with devs (Frontline/Feast) with streaming and open chat. Yes, they don't do that with English community because the language barrier but it is really not something to be angry at. It is like Blizzard devs that only communicate with English community in NA and ignore rest of China, Korea and European in term of class balancing. There is really nothing need to be complain about
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    Too bad, we do speak/write/type in English in Europe on the official forums xD
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    I'd be fine with reduced damage for ranged jobs if it meant more snares, knock-backs and traps. We should be able to toy with our opponents more. Melee jobs have a bit too much mobility rendering our defensive abilities lacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Just play melee. It's really fun to play right now, I wonder why
    I'm new to pvp, but I feel like I can't even do anything with my Samurai. I get burned down in seconds by all the ranged people running away before I can even get in there. At least in Frontlines.

    Of course, it doesn't help I keep getting put on teams where players just scatter instead of supporting each other vs teams of people who actually stick together. It literally feels like pvp is about big groups clashing and then running away.
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 11-21-2019 at 08:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    I'm new to pvp, but I feel like I can't even do anything with my Samurai. I get burned down in seconds by all the ranged people running away before I can even get in there. At least in Frontlines..
    You have vanguard potions, soten and chiten. If you are missing one or all of these, reconsider your actions. Most melees I see die in FLs do so because they thought it was a good idea to jump into a stack of people with no escape/defensives ready and expect to be healed through it.
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    PSA: SAM has been broken since 4.x literally still the theoretical unkillable melee, chiten has only been getting BUFFED. No room for excuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crit View Post
    PSA: SAM has been broken since 4.x literally still the theoretical unkillable melee, chiten has only been getting BUFFED. No room for excuses.
    I'm brand new to PvP. I'd say that's an excuse. Lol. I have to learn. Which is why I came here. No need to be a jerk about it.
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    As far as i played frontlines i did not see samurais making a giant difference. I guess its just balancd.
    Dragoon and ninja on the other hand...
    I think rangeds should get a 2k hp buff and melee should have 5 or 10% deffensive taken away. I dont see much problems with tanks.
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