So is it just me?!

[Noitems]

The concern of decreasing pvp-pops was mentioned by the Players immediatly after the Liveletter. Sadly they kept it this way. The only thing we can do is giving continuous feedback and hope they change that back so we can have 24 again.

Remember that we can make a difference by continuing to object and raise awareness. They tried doing greed only for alliance raids back when 4.3 came out and it was switched back within two weeks due to complaints and the inconvenience.

[Kaelia]

That is exactly what I have been doing everyday since patch day. I didn't even have a lodestone forum account until this craziness occurred. Never really had a change that angered me as much as this, honestly.

[Aivi_lo]

I'm EU in NA server. PvP is gone for me now

[Aramyth]

We need 24 man matches back for off peak hours.

Even during peak hours, it wasn't uncommon to have a 72 man group and a 24 man group going at the same time.

Why they removed it is beyond me. It does not make any sense.

[Syrehn]

The concern of decreasing pvp-pops was mentioned by the Players immediatly after the Liveletter. Sadly they kept it this way. The only thing we can do is giving continuous feedback and hope they change that back so we can have 24 again.

I mean there's also the fact that when regular or new players continue to get rolled over by the premade Discord goon squads, that are now circumventing the removal of 8 man groups by converting to the same GC and then 1,2,3 queuing to be able to steamroll less skilled or coordinated players and stack wins, that will eventually cause a decline in player engagement as well - thus affecting queue times. It's pretty craptastic when objectives can be ignored and you spend match after match getting rofl stomped.

So time of day is a factor, which is compounded with the removal of 24's, but then additionally people are starting to avoid Frontlines altogether right now because of the GC queue workaround. :/

[Kisama]

I mean there's also the fact that when regular or new players continue to get rolled over by the premade Discord goon squads

Have you considered joining them? You know that's an option, right? A much better one than posting on the official forums that Square doesn't even read.

[Syrehn]

Have you considered joining them? You know that's an option, right?

No, I haven't because *SHOCKER* it's not fun to completely smash another team to pad win rates. Which let's not get it twisted, is EXACTLY the reason they're doing it. If they wanted healthy premade vs premade PVP the bulk of them wouldn't be on 1 GC sync queuing.

There are times when I (either solo or with a few friends) do end up on the premade alliances through sheer RNG and it's not FUN; at least not to me.

Being part of an alliance that is obliterating an enemy team by steam rolling/spawn camping/etc. while ignoring the majority of the match objectives leaves me feeling like I need to shower the scum off myself.

It's not fun participating on those winning teams and I'm sure it's definitely not fun for the opposing alliances who just get rofl stomped either.

#EnforceFreelancer

[Kisama]

No, I haven't because *SHOCKER* it's not fun to completely smash another team to pad win rates.

Well, thankfully there is plenty other content that you can be queueing for. If you don't find PvP fun then don't queue it, probably.

[Syrehn]

If you don't find PvP fun then don't queue it, probably.

Yeah, because that's clearly what I said. LOL

[BloodRubyXII]

Well, thankfully there is plenty other content that you can be queueing for. If you don't find PvP fun then don't queue it, probably.

Anyone who actually enjoyed queueing 8man to farm over and over again with literally no challenge is very strange to me. Because I know I didn't, the banter in chat/discord and achievements were the only reason I cared to do it. On the other hand LP is one of the most fun activities in the game to me. Then again it's also the same people who rarely come anywhere near a ranked mode and disappear after 100 games because steamrolling in FL premades inflates their ego so much they can't cope when the time comes where they're against people that'll actually fight back.



But hey, by the way you percieved Syrehn's post I guess I don't find PvP fun and should stop queueing it because it isn't fun to win literally uncontested in a game mode that isn't even considered competitive!