Ninja needs to be nerf hammered, prove me wrong.

[Nedkel]

Here is the proof from three random games i just had before making this thread



Most of times there is always one or few ninjas that are completely unstoppable in the FL and this is ridiculous, because after X amount of kills you get a damage bonus that keeps snowballing further and further.
Why is ninja broken, straight and forward:
Because he could dash in and out at any time he really wants, dash two time for 20 yalms making it 40 yalms, this is TOO MUCH.
A skilled ninja is IMPOSSIBLE to kill even for few people chasing him due to his double intercontinental dashes, it is ridiculous because someone who knows what to do could score stupid amount of kills without worrying about getting killed.
Ninjas are snowballing really hard because mobility is king and if you cant get caught you cant get killed, and this kind of mobility also helps them getting easy kills from someone running away from them, there is no way to escape from ninja.
Shukuchi should have ONE charge, two is too much considering how good role actions are for melee DPS for mobility already, two are OVERKILL, thank you.

[DamianFatale]

I hate that whatever objective going on In Frontlines becomes second priority as soon as Ninja arrives.

[Eloah]

Sorry to say, but your proof is flawed.

To start, 3 random games does not present enough information to support your claim. Additionally, you said they were games you just had, meaning they are all the same map. It could be possible the Ninjas fair better on that map but poorly on others. You'd need data from all the maps to compare, and lots of it.

Also, the kill count it calculated once the target dies; so it is possible they were just lucky enough to deal the final blow. Plus player skill is very important. It's entirely possible that the people not on Ninja were just bad, and those on Ninja practiced until their fingers bleed.

Lastly, you may not realize it, but you are skewing the data, or in a sense hiding important information from us. I don't think it's intentional though. Based on the information presented in the images we can see you were on the Adders for the first two and the Flames for the third. But we don't know what teams the Ninjas were on. Now by default, PvP doesnt show names of anyone from the other teams, just those on your team, it only shows their initials. By not knowing what teams they were on, we can't get a feel for whether they were acting solo or collectively with their team.

They could appear to be OP, and the skills you pointed out could be an issue. But unless clearer data is presented, it's just an inference based on personal experiences.

[Esmoire]

From my assessment of battlegrounds, with the context I feel melee at large is undervalued and general player tendencies is hampering them, I do think ninja is a little too good in FL. The thing is they are by no means OP in The Feast, where balance is more important. I hope tonight's patch is able to maintain their strength in The Feast while dampening NIN in FL a little. There's a lot of levers you can adjust for things that are clearly bigger in one domain than the other. The jumps for example are good in any environment, but an even bigger deal in the massive battlegrounds FL takes place in.

[snipski]

Ninja is op in PVP now? id never thought id see the day, anyway arent they reworking all the pvp jobs for 5.1 anyways.

[Saintly]

A skilled ninja is IMPOSSIBLE to kill even for few people

Yeah, lets punish people for being skilled.
Also since NIN is "OP" feel free to play one and dominate like these guys, i mean its just cause NIN is OP after all.

[Crit]

Ninja is just a noob stomper, it's terrible in large scale premades and in feast, the job isnt op, the players are just unskilled


Delete this

[Barachim]

Ninja is op in PVP now? id never thought id see the day, anyway arent they reworking all the pvp jobs for 5.1 anyways.

Are they continuing to slash moves, until we only have two buttons to press?

[meTYE]

I never had any problem with nin at all taking them down unless they have a pocket healer.

[hynaku]

Healers is what needs nerfed with it taking 3 people to take one down and ninja should only get to use that teleport escape skill once not 2 times same with dancer.