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    BubblyBoar's Avatar
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    Xyno Edajos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by A-res View Post
    "Force Frontline Freelancer!" / "Solo queue only!"
    No. A terrible idea. This is as equivalent to forcing solo queues on raid finder for PvE raids. If I want to, I want to RP in PvP as Adders or whatever grand company I'm in. Don't force me to be in a grand company I don't want to be in.

    "Premades kill everyone!"
    PvP is Player vs. Player. Competition. If you have the mindset of an easy win without effort, this isn't a mode for you. Put in some effort like the rest of us that "mow down the pugs". There's all kinds of guides out there for both feast and frontline. No excuses at this point, SE has already toned down PvP immensely. Like others said before me: find a team, put effort, and you'll win. If you plan to PvP to win, good for you, if not and just want rewards, shame on you.

    PvP doesn't need any more restrictions. It needs more viability (8 player Frontline and 8 Player feast) because this mode is dying with all these restrictions.



    What competition is there in a premade completely stomping PUGs? I'm not advocating for Solo only or forced Freelancer. I only suggested that premades specifically be forced freelancer. I believe it'll make a healthier FL. It has nothing to do with makig things easier or harder. I play all the PvP modes and I win pretty often when I do play, but FL is the only one with this specific problem because of how the queue can be abused.
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    Azura Stormwind
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    Lamia
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    What competition is there in a premade completely stomping PUGs? I'm not advocating for Solo only or forced Freelancer. I only suggested that premades specifically be forced freelancer. I believe it'll make a healthier FL. It has nothing to do with makig things easier or harder. I play all the PvP modes and I win pretty often when I do play, but FL is the only one with this specific problem because of how the queue can be abused.
    Premade parties ARE forced to freelancer.
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    Ares Arikado
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    What competition is there in a premade completely stomping PUGs? I'm not advocating for Solo only or forced Freelancer. I only suggested that premades specifically be forced freelancer. I believe it'll make a healthier FL. It has nothing to do with makig things easier or harder. I play all the PvP modes and I win pretty often when I do play, but FL is the only one with this specific problem because of how the queue can be abused.
    It's still one team vs. another team. One is organized than the other. Premades are already being forced free lancer, that is, ones that are partied up. Notice that this whole xx man Adder team was created AFTER 5.1 came out with it's 4 man premades. I rather premade with a GC with my friends on this patch because 4 man isn't enough to bring them all in. I want to stomp PUGs: see below.

    Healthier FL? Organize a PvP event for that. At this point PvP is a joke - Feast has win trades, frontlines has bots. The real problem is the PUGs and the blame is on SE for that. If you want healthy PvP, organize a day or have individual rewards that reflect on individual performance. Too many PUGs don't give a s*** about PvP; THAT is the problem. Premades are created not only to play with friends, it's also to avoid having terrible teammates that "I'm gonna guard base! *is a healer*" "I'm here for tomes/exp/rewards/hairstyle/roulette." and again don't care about it. These are the people that deserved to be stomped. (You or I being in that said losing team is collateral damage.)

    Blacklist does a good job of taking care of terrible loot and scooters so it should also implement where blacklisted players shouldn't be in my team. Blacklisting bad PUGs doesn't do anything but mute them. Why should I care about healthy PvP in a non-organized queue with my team being PUGs that don't care?

    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    They all sit in VC and gloat about how they stomp PUGs. It's not about being better players. Even they admit there are better ones that aren't in their group. It's about having one GC stacked and the other just being loose PUGs by abusing the queue system. But to give them credit, some are actually trying to od the same for other GCs But on Aether it's pretty much only ingrained on Adders.
    I am in a premade that also voice in discord. Don't pile everyone that together to these guys. We premade to have fun and if we end up stomping PUGs, well, we stomp them; their fault for having a difference in skill. Not everybody in premades gloat stomping PUGs, blame the person who's gloating and not premades.
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