Now before you overreact

[Melichoir]

I dont understand what the issue is? Are we complaining that males can wear the female clothing now or that time is being taken to make sure thats a thing?

Look, if people want stuff to be worn by both sexes, that should be fine, and frankly all the outfits should be wearable more or less by either sex. That being said, I personally find it silly to see male characters running around in 2B's gear, simply because it looks pretty awful. I dont think people fully understand that some clothing articles are designed to accentuate certain features on females or males, so sticking it on the opposite sex doesnt work out to well because, you know, males and females are not 1:1 copies of one another and have some differences in their morphology. But if people are determined to wear it, go for it. Youll end up looking clownish IMO, but if it floats your boat then alright.

[SturmChurro]

I dont think people fully understand that some clothing articles are designed to accentuate certain features on females or males, so sticking it on the opposite sex doesnt work out to well because, you know, males and females are not 1:1 copies of one another and have some differences in their morphology. But if people are determined to wear it, go for it. Youll end up looking clownish IMO, but if it floats your boat then alright.

You better watch out, saying something like that is effectively a crime nowadays.

[DynnDiablos]

I think Viera being a female only race with its defining characteristics being a large bust and butt in a thong is a joke but they spent a lot of resources on that too.

I don't wear a thong and I have moderate-sized breasts. Way to paint with a broad brush.

[Iscah]

I dont think people fully understand that some clothing articles are designed to accentuate certain features on females or males, so sticking it on the opposite sex doesnt work out to well because, you know, males and females are not 1:1 copies of one another and have some differences in their morphology.

Indeed, and it's not even a matter of gender, just body shape - even more so in this game where you have everything from Lalafell to Elezen to Roegadyn all able to equip the same gear, which is no promise that all of them will (or should) look good in any given piece.

I have six different characters currently, and things that look great on one can look awful and badly-fitting on another. It's just how it works.

[Chalbee]

Indeed, and it's not even a matter of gender, just body shape - even more so in this game where you have everything from Lalafell to Elezen to Roegadyn all able to equip the same gear, which is no promise that all of them will (or should) look good in any given piece.

I have six different characters currently, and things that look great on one can look awful and badly-fitting on another. It's just how it works.

Indeed. I certainly agree, for example, that the 2B outfit does not look good on all characters; it looks terrible on mine. But that choice should be up to the player. I have no idea if my char looks good in a x,y,z female locked gear because I cannot wear it to find out.

[Noctisnine]

I for once dislike heavily what they did with 2b male gear, looks horrible in males at least that's my opinion as some people may like it. And I dislike the idea of having similar glamours for different genders.

[Melichoir]

You better watch out, saying something like that is effectively a crime nowadays.

Eh, if the outrage mob wants to come for me, then Im fine with them wasting their time and breath. Im no bigot no matter how much they huff and puff, so Im not gonna give them the time of day.

Indeed, and it's not even a matter of gender, just body shape - even more so in this game where you have everything from Lalafell to Elezen to Roegadyn all able to equip the same gear, which is no promise that all of them will (or should) look good in any given piece.

I have six different characters currently, and things that look great on one can look awful and badly-fitting on another. It's just how it works.

This is more or less teh crux of glamours in general. they dont look good on certain races. Part of the reason why I play lalafell is the proportions look more cutesy and cartoony. It looks funner for me. Some of my glamours just dont work on Taller races. Inversely, some glamours work way better on taller characters and just dont work for Lalafells. I get that and make glamours that I feel work better for the body size and build. But I think a lot of people dont get this and just slap stuff on not even thinking about that aspect. This gets exacerbated when you take into account Male/Female body shapes on average and stick a glamour that was designed for a more feminine body shape on a very masculine body. It just looks bad stylistically. Of all the meme posts Ive seen about guys wearing 2Bs outfit, I havent seen anyone pull it off and look remotely decent. Only way I can see it working is if someone is looking to pull off a Kefka/Jester-esque kind of feel.

But again, if people want to sport the look, fine by me. Design your characters armor and appearance as you see fit. I think that should be the ultimate goal. The only reason Ill raise a stink is if glamour and armor design starts moving into a 'neutral' design, which inevitably ends up removing feminine aspects from gear.

[Iscah]

Indeed. I certainly agree, for example, that the 2B outfit does not look good on all characters; it looks terrible on mine. But that choice should be up to the player. I have no idea if my char looks good in a x,y,z female locked gear because I cannot wear it to find out.

I wasn't meaning that as a reason to keep the gender locks! Definitely let everyone wear everything if they want - but it's also fine, or should be fine, to say [specific dress X] looks bad on male characters because it doesn't complement their body shape, without it being taken as "men shouldn't be allowed to wear this".

[SieyaM]

Remember we could have male viera if it wasn't so time consuming to fit gear to the male bodies that it would slow their patch cycle.

What we needed was them fitting dresses and panties to all the male races instead!

I thought it was because they had already started working on adding Hrothgar and only after the popularity of the Ivalice raid did they decide that Viera would be added and at no time did they state with any certainty that there was a possibility of adding the missing sexes. But the point of the post was actually to say that just because something doesn't cater to you or your idea of what should be in the game doesn't mean it should be excluded or is a waste. This game has a broad player base and what is good for you and yours is not all that matters. Get over yourself and realize you are not the only one this game is designed for.

[Esmoire]

ITT people ultimately not understanding the unfortunate implications of not wanting something just because it favours marginalized groups. Yeah of course this will favour specific groups: people in the queer community (like myself), women who want a more broad range of practical attire (like myself), people who just find guys in some of this stuff hot (like myself), among others. The fact people who will make use of it being a minority as justification for why you shouldn't do it only makes sense in a narrow purview; FFXIV as a product actually is full to the brim of things only a small % of people will enjoy. Opening up clothing for more people to use it, whether it's for genuine expression or just for someone's humour or any reasons in-between, is going to be something that ultimately matters to a minority which is... fine.

Savage raids are just enjoyed by a minority.
While almost everyone will try trades, crafter mains are a minority.
People who like chocobo racing are a minority.

None of them are really inherently worth less of the developer's time as long as a reasonable amount of people will like it, and I do think a reasonable enough amount of people will enjoy this relative to the work required, taking into account the increased requirements as more outfits and potentially race variants are added in the future.