Bring back crowd control. Bring back branching dungeons. Bring back ADVENTURE.

[Reynhart]

Choose one and go with it.

Exactly.

However, you do understand that multiple layouts are essentially a different dungeon that would have to be designed and tested. That is not likely to happen with the game's restrictions. Unless we want less dungeons overall.

Like you said, they already have a system to generate random dungeons. It's not like the predetermined layout have such a great design that random map would make a big difference.

I never said it was. That doesn't change that it makes players divert from the linear path and that's the point.

Like I said, as much as the hint in Sastasha. And "linear" doesn't automatically means a direct corridor, but simply the same single mandatory path.

Expecting anything like that to progress the MSQ just isn't going to happen ever.

Basically, a MSQ dungeon could be the size and design of 2-3 floors of Deep Dungeon, and it would be more interesting than what we have now. And you'll run the expert dungeons far more than you would PoTD of HoH.

i mean its great on paper (or pen and paper) but as others and I have said once people find the "optimal" path if anyone deviates from that path or doesn't know that path they will be berated and kicked from groups.

Why are people so adamant that there must be an "optimal path" ?