Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams View Post
Except Square Enix has never went out and said they would make endgame more difficult and thought oriented. This time, they are, for once. Not sure why people think they can cheese through this new proc system and hope a macro will come and save the day. Maybe it’s a case of only seeing what you want to hear? He’s made it pretty clear that procs are required to finish (and HQ) a craft that is endgame. I’m not making this up. He literally said, it is, required.

They seem to forget what procs are. For example, during gathering (at the moment anyway) most optimal rotations prefer that Discerning Eye procs. Meaning, it does not always appear, in other words, rng would be back. To imply you can macro RNG (at least conveniently) is quite silly. To say otherwise implies you can somehow manipulate FFXIV’s rng, which, sounds ridiculous. This isn’t pokemon.

I’m still kind of bummed that rng is back (supposedly):, and it’s not skill oriented (maybe in 6.0 they will), but if RNG is what needs to be done to make endgame not guaranteed, I welcome it.
Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams View Post
Explain to me how you can 100% efficiently macro moves that proc..? That’s like saying you can 100% efficiently macro a Discerning Eye gathering rotation. It’s impossible because it’s rng. As I’ve said previously, he literally said that procs are required to complete/HQ crafts. To imply otherwise would mean you can somehow manipulate FFXIV’s rng. I’m sure I don’t need to elaborate how ridiculous that is. I just feel like this is a case of some folks only hearing what they want to hear.

I would only believe that if he outright says macros will still be used endgame. But, he also says he doesn’t want them to be used for endgame recipes. Sorry, but the 100% macro nonsense seems like it’ll finally end come 5.1. Who knows, maybe I’m wrong, but after what was said, I really doubt it.
Already doable.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tent=post_body
after searching and asking around, I didn't find this anywhere, just the prioritized list at http://www.ffxiv-gathering.com/images/4.0-470.png for example which is exactly what I turned into this macro abusing the fact that Discerning Eye isn't usable again, if you have the buff already (from ability itself or Impulsive Appraisal proc).

Requirements for Lvl 70 Nodes: 1000 Perception and 600 GP

/ac "Discerning Eye" <wait.2>
/ac "Impulsive Appraisal II" <wait.3>
/ac "Discerning Eye"
/ac "Single Mind" <wait.2>
/ac "Impulsive Appraisal II" <wait.3>
/ac "Discerning Eye"
/ac "Single Mind" <wait.2>
/ac "Methodical Appraisal" <wait.3>
The Idea behind this, is, that, if you HAVE the proc, it can't cast Discerning Eye again and jumps straight to Single Mind, if you DON'T HAVE the proc, it casts Discerning Eye not beeing able to cast Single Mind because there's no waiting time after the 2nd and 3rd Discerning Eye.