Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
When it comes to the First (full disclosure, I have not completed all the side quests in Farrow) I never got the impression that they're hiding, but that they're actively fighting to defend their home.
Ok, where? You would expect if theyre fighting that youd either encounter atleast one in Rak Tikka or at major hubs for supplies. Let alone we should see or encounter one at Fanow whos returning from defense with either intel, supplies, updates, whatever. You know, any good old reason outside of the lore given to us on the source. We gotta keep in mind there isnt very much land left on the 1st. We more or less visited the entirety of whats left of it. (Also is it Farrow and not Fannow? I dunno for sure. Derps)

Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
This is something that many real world societies would relate to. If there's a major catastrophe that requires bodies to go and defend your cities and homes, it tends to fall on the men of that society to go and fight. If this followed for the Vis, then it would make sense that the women and children (the two groups that most cultures would agree need to be protected) are left in the village while the men go out and fight to defend them. Again assuming this is what happened, then it would make sense that on the First, men would be rarer than women because of how many died defending their homes from attacks by the sin eaters.
I dont contest this point, but in virtually every society, it is the able bodied that go to fight. This would mean we should see: Old male vieras, Very young male Vieras, Crippled or Disabled Male Vieras, Injured Male Vieras. Then this again goes back to the first point. If theyre not in Fanow, then theyre in the wilds or Chrystarium or other regions. Yet again we do not even encounter a single one. I get you can have a special society where males and females live separate. Ill bite. But there's a point where it becomes ludicrous and implausible. The first is a ruined world still on the verge of annihilation. If were successful with Eden and that course, things might get better. But it's still in real bad shape. Despite cultural norms, if the survival of your species is at stake, things change right quick. Even if they are all off fighting, we should encounter one or two in our travels across whats left of the 1st. Thats not happening and the reason is "Well, theyre off fighting someplace, or that Vis males live out in the woods as tradition dictates."

Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
That said, I didn't get the impression from what quests I have completed that the men were explicitly kept out of Farrow, nor did I get the impression that they're hiding. They're actively fighting to defend the last refuge of their race, and dying doing so. Had we come to Norvrandt under different circumstances, it's not impossible that we would have seen both the men and women living in that settlement.
I agree. But if the point is theyre off fighting, theyre quite literally leaving the place theyre fighting for unprotected while at the same time sacrificing a very necessary part of the whole 'survival of our species' aspect. More or less it takes two to tango. You can have more Vis if every last male is dead. With the Vis losing ground in the Rak Tikka, youd still expect a small contingent of males to remain in Fanow for defense. It's just kind of a mess that's made because of the genderlock thing, and complicated by an MSQ that doesnt give us real credible reasons why we wouldnt see them on the first considering the situation.


Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
I really hope your right in the 6.0 launch of the other sexes for the two races.... but me personally, I'm not holding my breath for anything before 7.0
6.0 is optimistic, but if a bit part of their reasoning is updating armors and items, theyre under greater pressure to present them sooner than later. Considering how things supposedly went down, they should have more time this time around to create the off sexes with a more complete look than ShB. Admittedly, Im not holding my breath either. It makes more sense to do it sooner than later, but who knows.