How do we feel about tank damage right now?

[Reynhart]

True but everbody that really cared about contributing would turn of tank stance the moment they had enough threat to see them through the encounter

Which would still only mattered compared to other tanks, and completely irrelevant to how well you perform compared to DPS.

or if that wasn't possible just quit playing tanks altogether.

No, because not all tanks are obssessed with being a wannabe-DPS.

Unless you are overgeared for the fight, you would probably wipe to the enrage or fail a dps check that happens while the 2 DPS are dead.

I've cleared E1S several times with multiple DPS deaths and we're far from overgeared.

( I mean there have been kills of 24 man bosses with over a hundered deaths in the kill "try")

Not that hard when fights don't have hard enrage.

I personally want my contribution to be relevant more often than once every minute.

You're still doing damage the rest of the time. Basically, you're half useful 100% of the time, and completely vital once every 30 seconds, to the point where no DPS will ever be able to steal your role.

Coming from a game where any job could tank as long as they have the proper subjob and a competent healer, you're way overdramatizing the situation tanks will ever be in in XIV.

This is why Sentinel was considered the worst 30% tank CD for years. It offered 10% more mitigation, which was useless, for an additional 60s CD length.

Yes, at the cost on 60CD length. The issue with Sentinel is the uptime. That's why Rampart is considered was considered the best CD for years...and the tank stance is a permanent Rampart, without any drawback.

You're missing the point. If Levi does so little damage that you can go the entire fight without using a single CD excluding your Invuls, it makes our mitigation tools have significantly less value.

Except that Levi does so little damage because you have that permanent mitigation that your healer deals with. Having to heal that increased damage has a cost, it always had. The issue in SB and before is that the damage cost on tanks was far greater that the healing on healers. Now, there's no cost on tanks, you're just giving "free" damage to healers.

You're purposely ignoring past versions because it suits your argument.

No, you're ignoring past content to suit your agument. Tank damage has increased. If you try Ultimate now for the first time, you will do more damage than those that cleared it before. The fact that DPS has their damge increased more is still not a nerf. If I have a car slightly faster than you, then decide to buy one that goes three times faster while you buy a one that goes two times faster, you're not going slower than before.
And the contribution is as vital as it was before, especially now that the role is easier to play.