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  1. #61
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Thinking it over, something really bugs me about the fancy animations (besides going straight into acrobatics) is the lore. This is a discipline intended to become part of Ishgard's military defences against the dragons - a serious undertaking that has to be 'sold' to soldiers and nobles. That works with the more restrained original animations, but would seem incredibly silly with flips and acrobatics. Maybe it works for our character, but could you see an Ishgardian knight running into battle like that?

    I don't know if they can control which versions of 'upgradable' attacks are used by NPCs, but I hope so.

    The other thing about this versus rogue/ninja also having unnecessary spins and flips, is about when you get those animations. Pick up rogue class and you'll know it's a flashy spinning class as soon as you've fought your first Lv1 wharf rat. Machinist starts with those fairly static animations and then turns into flips and spins later on, changing the tone of the class.



    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    How we suddenly went from being able to summon small devices like a Rook and Bishop turret [...]
    We don't "summon" the turrets out of the aether, they're physical devices. It was a plot point in the lead up to the Lv50 tournament (IIRC) that someone had stolen and broken several turrets as part of the effort to sabotage us.
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  2. #62
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    We don't "summon" the turrets out of the aether, they're physical devices. It was a plot point in the lead up to the Lv50 tournament (IIRC) that someone had stolen and broken several turrets as part of the effort to sabotage us.
    You couldn't read one sentence prior?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    limited ability to teleport linked objects from the Manufactury to within proximity of our packs and return them thereafter.
    They're both larger than our packs. As are the siege weapons we teleport in later. That doesn't mean we're creating them on the spot from nothing, either. Summoning doesn't have to mean that we create them from nothing, only that we "call" them to our location. That was precisely the point of my post.
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    Razard Baleth
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cetek14 View Post
    NIN is just spinning and cutting target. It's not unnecessary jump. MCH can just simply raise arm, aim, and pull the trigger.
    This is a reason we will never get MCH story character. All those flips would look silly in serious situations. Unless they would stay on lvl 50.
    Um Excuse me?


    "Am I a joke to you?"
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    You couldn't read one sentence prior?

    They're both larger than our packs. As are the siege weapons we teleport in later. That doesn't mean we're creating them on the spot from nothing, either. Summoning doesn't have to mean that we create them from nothing, only that we "call" them to our location. That was precisely the point of my post.
    I did miss that sentence, but I would still say there's no reason to say we're summoning it - it's not a stated concept that we're doing it that way, and I'd say there's more canon evidence that we have a large invisible pack full of items than that we're "summoning" things from elsewhere to use them.



    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    Um Excuse me?

    "Am I a joke to you?"
    If she does the spins and flips, yes.

    I nearly mentioned Hilda specifically in my last post. She seems very much a sensible "stand and shoot" type.
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