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    Quote Originally Posted by Warskull View Post
    There is no way to mimic the PvP combo with macros. If you are proposing having a multi-skill macro, they don't work well.

    What you can't see because you are so obsessed with buttons = difficulty is that by compressing gnashing fang into a single button you now create space for more buttons that can do more interesting things. For example have some alternate ways to spend cartridges. Right now cartridge economy is braindead simple. If AoE burn it on fated circle, if single target burn it on gnashing fang and burst strike. Maybe pepper in some alternate uses like defensive options, buff options, or boss debuff options.

    If you think a game is about pressing buttons you are playing it at a very basic, very simple level. Games are about strategy and interesting decisions when you are good at them.
    One button combos feels like trash and it is the main reason why we dont have gnashing combo in one button in the first place, devs probably already considered making a one button combo but finally decided to not to go that way for a good reason.
    Having all 3 parts of the combo into separate buttons is giving you a chance to make a use of muscle memory, which is helping you knowing in what part of combo you are already in.
    If you simplify it to one button you are taking it away from yourself, and considering that you never press a button one time in this game due to the super poor netcode of the game you wont be able to tell which part of the combo you are in without looking constantly at the hotbar. You will end up pressing one button and having to pay attention to the skill your character is executing with a continuation to press all the time at the same time, and it will make it extremely difficult to double weave with not only you having to press 2 buttons constantly but also forcing you to pay attention to the hotbar, and all the trouble is simply solved thanks to these 3 buttons which helps you memorize the rotation without thinking too much and having your focus on more important things.


    Quote Originally Posted by xvshanevx View Post
    Wanna know how bad the FFXIV community is? People will argue that this idea of 1 button combos would simplify and making a job easier and more boring by removing buttons and should not be an option.

    Guess what, you dolts, you could spread the 1-button combos out. Use to having Storms Eye as your 1-2-3 buttons? Guess what, put 3 of the combo buttons as 1-2-3. WORKS THE SAME WAY!

    I did this when I played PVP and nothing changed. I don't understand the people in this game.
    Oh pvp, great a game mode that has been almot entirely killed thanks to the skills simplifications.
    Cool.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 10-15-2019 at 04:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    You people have no idea what you are asking for, everyone playing GNB today would complain after this pointless change, it will make GNB unbearable.
    Considering Gunbreaker is already using that concept with continuation, you're dramatizing way too much that situation. And frankly, "extremely difficult" because you'd have to look at your hotbar and your animation ? I guess BRDs, RDMs and BLMs are outstanding players because they manage to look for procs on their hotbar...
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 10-15-2019 at 04:03 AM.
    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Considering Gunbreaker is already using that concept with continuation, you're dramatizing way too much that situation. And frankly, "extremely difficult" because you'd have to look at your hotbar and your animation ? I guess BRDs, RDMs and BLMs are outstanding players because they manage to look for procs on their hotbar...
    BLM has the second lowest APM from all the jobs and those 2 are ranged, so its not even near the GNB gameplay.

    Copy paste this
    /action "Gnashing Fang"
    /action "Savage Claw"
    /action "Wicked Talon"
    /macroicon "gnashing fang"

    Its working just fine, do few runs with it and decide which is better, i already decided i am better with 3 button rotation and so SE devs thought so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    BLM has the second lowest APM from all the jobs and those 2 are ranged, so its not even near the GNB gameplay.

    Copy paste this
    /action "Gnashing Fang"
    /action "Savage Claw"
    /action "Wicked Talon"
    /macroicon "gnashing fang"

    Its working just fine, do few runs with it and decide which is better, i already decided i am better with 3 button rotation and so SE devs thought so.
    It works fine if you're alright with it causing delays.

    Stop spreading bad practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    It works fine if you're alright with it causing delays.

    Stop spreading bad practice.
    The delay is bigger if you put /macroicon in front of /ac
    Then yes, it is quite significant delay, but if you put it after /ac the difference between both counts in miliseconds.

    Its not as bad as for example playing FFXIV from another continent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    BLM has the second lowest APM from all the jobs and those 2 are ranged, so its not even near the GNB gameplay.

    Copy paste this
    /action "Gnashing Fang"
    /action "Savage Claw"
    /action "Wicked Talon"
    /macroicon "gnashing fang"

    Its working just fine, do few runs with it and decide which is better, i already decided i am better with 3 button rotation and so SE devs thought so.
    Oh hey that's basically my old GNB macro I don't use anymore because I got better at timing my non-macro weaponskills in actual encounters...
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