Quote Originally Posted by Seabhacgra View Post
Love this thread, thanks for making it! all the guides I've watched on Youtube and online have lead me to believe Crit is always king, even on a Pally, which I play. I have all 450+ gear with several 460 and several pieces overmelded. I'm sitting about 2680 Crit, 1890 Det and 1200 DH... I;m a bit of a min maxer so I like to optimize as much as possible.. so you're all saying I should be focusing on DH instead of Crit??
If you are running solo or w/o SCH/DRG, DH is better than Crit until you have ~4k Crit alone. If you're running with SCH/DRG this may drift towards Crit, but you still would need roughly 3.5k for it to be stronger than DH. What is exact value when Crit becomes better than DH in raid scenarios? I dunno, there are too many factors. I think even the theory groups on discord will blow their minds before they have the perfect answer.

Anyway, here are some statistics for nerds:

DET 1330 [340+990] -> +3.9%
CRIT 1370 [380+990] -> +3.06%
DH 1370 [380+990] -> +4.125%
TEN 1370 [380+990] -> +3%
Here are really low stats, Crit is just as good as Ten.

DET 1990 [340+1650] -> +6.5%
CRIT 2030 [380+1650] -> +5.5%
DH 2030 [380+1650] -> +6.875%
TEN 2030 [380+1650] -> +5%
While Crit gets higher than Ten, it scales worse than Det/DH.

DET 2650 [340+2310] -> +9.1%
CRIT 2690 [380+2310] -> +8.26%
DH 2690 [380+2310] -> +9.625%
TEN 2690 [380+2310] -> +7%
Crit hit the point where it scales better now, but is still behind Det.

DET 3640 [340+3300] -> +13%
CRIT 3680 [380+3300] -> +13%
DH 3680 [380+3300] -> +13.75%
TEN 3680 [380+3300] -> +10%
This is the breakpoint for Crit, from here out on it will beat Det.

DET 4300 [340+3960] -> +15.6%
CRIT 4340 [380+3960] -> +16.56%
DH 4340 [380+3960] -> +16.5%
TEN 4340 [380+3960] -> +12%
Crit beats DH, at this point DH becomes worthless as melds unless Crit is maxed.

DET 5290 [340+4950] -> +19.5%
CRIT 5330 [380+4950] -> +22.5%
DH 5330 [380+4950] -> +20.625%
TEN 5330 [380+4950] -> +15%
Not sure if we can ever reach those numbers, just wanted to show the scaling.

All values for solo/non-raid (no SCH/DRG) scenarios!

If you go for Det/DH, you will have a more... 'safe damage' build, but you can barely scale higher. With Crit/DH it's more rng-based, but you CAN scale higher.