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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kobe-sabi View Post
    The problem is, 4.0 WHM community was the only ones complaining about thier job gauge, the lily system was not inresting and it didnt offer nothing new to a WHM kit. the thread for WHM changes had had over 550,000 views and thousands of comments. mean while the SCH and AST was happy where they were at, hence you would think SE would LEAVE AST AND SCH ALONE, but they didnt they took away what made the jobs fun, and gave the WHM a boost in damage, a few OGCD's heals and spells with no mp cost adding to WHM endless pool of MP. WHM is sitting good right now and i dont want it to get any nerfs cause im tired of this leaving one job behind in certain classes.

    SCH needs their Pets to matter, they want their damage kit back, if SE was scared to buff Selene because Selene affected the party, then why not let Selene buff the master, in damage, cast speed, extra mitigation, or whatever, this streamlining jobs it getting on my nerves.
    Most healers who were worth a damn saw the 4.0 WHM changes and knew they'd be bad. WHM's had support from a lot of other healers because we all knew our job could be next (and it was in ShB). The fact they took so much away from WHM and gave it to others in the form of role actions was bad.

    The fact they took stoneskin away and gave it back later in the form of Divine benison was bad.

    They took away Divine Seal, gave it back via role action (Largesse), took it away again and gave it back baked into Temperance was bad. SE has a really bad track record of doing this crap, and not only on healers.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 10-14-2019 at 09:01 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    kobe-sabi's Avatar
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    Ash Tikyrah
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Most healers who were worth a damn saw the 4.0 WHM changes and knew they'd be bad. WHM's had support from a lot of other healers. The fact they took so much away from WHM and gave it to others in the form of role actions was bad.

    The fact they took stoneskin away and gave it back later in the form of Divine benison was bad.

    They took away Divine Seal, gave it back via role action (Largesse), took it away again and gave it back baked into Temperance. SE has a really bad track record of doing this crap.
    all the Healers could of kept all their original spells, and allow them to upgrade into new spells using traits. it just proves they are running out of ideas or saving them till we're all capped at LV99. Six years and the only new role action they came up with was RESCUE. for the rest, i can understand the ESUNA, SWIFTCAST, and LUCID DREAMING thing they want to save time/resources for when they add a new healer. Do i hate this? YES I DO. Because i been SCH/WHM/ since 2.0 2013 and an AST since 3.0 2015 and Nostalgia is one hell of a drug. for the rest, REPOSE is garbage, and i have a feeling they know how we feel about REPOSE! i would rather have back CLERIC STANCE atleast i will feel like i can use all my Role Actions. Also can we please buff SURECAST, 6s duration but 120s recast, can we raise this to 12s duriation.
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    Sloprano's Avatar
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    Quilia Labro
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kobe-sabi View Post
    all the Healers could of kept all their original spells, and allow them to upgrade into new spells using traits. it just proves they are running out of ideas or saving them till we're all capped at LV99. Six years and the only new role action they came up with was RESCUE. for the rest, i can understand the ESUNA, SWIFTCAST, and LUCID DREAMING thing they want to save time/resources for when they add a new healer. Do i hate this? YES I DO. Because i been SCH/WHM/ since 2.0 2013 and an AST since 3.0 2015 and Nostalgia is one hell of a drug. for the rest, REPOSE is garbage, and i have a feeling they know how we feel about REPOSE! i would rather have back CLERIC STANCE atleast i will feel like i can use all my Role Actions. Also can we please buff SURECAST, 6s duration but 120s recast, can we raise this to 12s duriation.
    More I think about it 5.0 doesn't seem like 'Healers Big Balance' patch and more like 'Balance's Big Balance' patch. It sure seems that way going by how little they've disclosed about anything else for SCH and healers in general.
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    Ash Tikyrah
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sloprano View Post
    More I think about it 5.0 doesn't seem like 'Healers Big Balance' patch and more like 'Balance's Big Balance' patch. It sure seems that way going by how little they've disclosed about anything else for SCH and healers in general.
    All i know is come this next live letter, lets us now about job changes coming, its cool they want to interview they new 24 man Nier team. but people who play want answers on what they plan on doing with jobs under performing and jobs that are mad boring to play. HOPEFULLY when the smoke is cleared, jobs are fixed and people give back positive feedback on what they changed, they don't back track on it when 6.0 drops. wishful thinking since SE loves back tracking on things.
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