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  1. #111
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    TaranTatsuuchi's Avatar
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Why would that have to be true?

    Commendations are displayed on the character panel, and as far as I am aware, anything else displayed there can and is referenced elsewhere without requiring related achievements.

    ...

    The devs have mentioned it before, Flags.


    The system checks for Flags that gets set on certain Milestones are reached.

    Many of those flags are achievements, that's why for example, you can only reobtain the Garo gear if you've gotten the achievement for it.
    The Calamity salvager checks the flags that are set by the achievements to see what you are allowed to purchase from it.



    The mentor check is the same way, do you have this Commendation achievement flag, do you have the flags for completing the role quests, do you have this instance number achievement flag, that's just how they set up how things check other things in the game.
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  2. #112
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    DenzelVilliers's Avatar
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    Chris Evans
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Imo Mentor Requiriments still easy, it should be at least:

    - PVE Mentor: all combat jobs at Lv80 + 3000 Commendations + All Extreme and Savage Cleared.

    - Craft/Gather Mentor: All Craft/Gathering Jobs at Lv80 + 5000 Collectables + All Master Recipes/Folklore + All Job Quests and NPCs deliveries done ( including Crystallium ).

    - PVP Mentor: 1000 Frontline + 1000 Feast + 1000 Rival Wings.

    Most of Mentors in this game are useless and know nothing about what mentoring they stand for, over 90% people just become Mentors to use Novice Network ( where 5 out 100 Mentors interact with people there, talking, socializing and answering questions, while the another 95 not even say "Hi" when Log in and loves to kick random people for nonsense and trivial reasons ) or because the Crown is "cute" to use at your nick name.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers View Post
    All Extreme and Savage Cleared.
    That's beyond what a mentor needs to do. Mentors are there to help new and returning players trying to get into the game, not necessarily help with endgame content, though they can do that as well, such as via mentor roulette.

    The same thing probably can be said about some of your proposed crafter/gatherer requirements.
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  4. #114
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers View Post
    Imo Mentor Requiriments still easy, it should be at least:

    - PVE Mentor: all combat jobs at Lv80 + 3000 Commendations + All Extreme and Savage Cleared.

    - Craft/Gather Mentor: All Craft/Gathering Jobs at Lv80 + 5000 Collectables + All Master Recipes/Folklore + All Job Quests and NPCs deliveries done ( including Crystallium ).

    - PVP Mentor: 1000 Frontline + 1000 Feast + 1000 Rival Wings.

    Most of Mentors in this game are useless and know nothing about what mentoring they stand for, over 90% people just become Mentors to use Novice Network ( where 5 out 100 Mentors interact with people there, talking, socializing and answering questions, while the another 95 not even say "Hi" when Log in and loves to kick random people for nonsense and trivial reasons ) or because the Crown is "cute" to use at your nick name.
    Woah, woah, settle down there. no need to add savage clears to this. EX clears are fine though.
    (3)

  5. #115
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    Angellos's Avatar
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    Angellos Virius
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 90
    My personal take on this:

    One year ago I lost my old account. This was not due to behavior, it was due to a change in country: And due to SE having outsourced their security, my account kept getting flagged for RMT because I was having to use PayPal to add Crysta to my account, to pay for my subscription. Every time that I had to add crysta, my account would be temporarily banned from use because it was flagged for potential RMT. (I was adding money from a country NOT my country of origin on the account.) After being told by a GM that if I kept using a VPN to bypass the account restriction I'd be permanently banned, I decided to just buy an NA account and start all over. (Goodbye, 3 years of work, my house and my omni gatherer/crafter.

    Anyway. I've had to bust my hind end to try and get to mentor status on this new account. I had to start fresh. Zero comms. I'm an experienced player who loves to explain fights, help new players, etc etc. The crown lets people know that I've been around a while, I know my stuff. Well, I'm very nearly there: And then! New requirements: 1k commendations. Sometimes, I can be the only reason a group survives, tank flawlessly, save the day as the healer, be the kindest person there and still get zero commendations - just because giving commendations is optional and people usually just want to leave without clicking a button.

    I've reached the 300 comms requirement - after a YEAR of playing. (MInd you, I didn't do a TON of dungeons like I did on my old account.)

    So I guess here's to 2-3 more years before I"ll get mentor. (And then they'll increase it to 2,000+ comms.)

    This really just made me not want to care anymore and just to keep to myself rather than continuing to go the extra mile all of the time. It was nice to be rewarded for my hard work and dedication: Now I feel like I'm being punished by an arbitrary, optional, commendation system.

    The Mentors who have been Mentors for years now also already have the 1,000 commendations. You're not going to fix the 'problem' Mentors by increasing the commendation requirement. You're only making it harder, MUCH harder for players who haven't been around 5+ years.
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    Last edited by Angellos; 10-06-2019 at 02:01 AM.

  6. #116
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers View Post
    ...All Extreme and Savage Cleared...
    Savage have nothing to share with mentoring new players, while extremes are already included because required for mentor roulette.
    I agree on set up specific requirements for PvP mentoring, 'tho.
    (0)

  7. #117
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Mentor status still requires 0 mentoring. Nothing new.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuC365vjzBFmvbu6M7dB80A

  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    while extremes are already included because required for mentor roulette.
    That kinda explains the horrible experiences I had with mentors joining Ex parties. Yes no, don't funnel them into savage please
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  9. #119
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers View Post
    Most of Mentors in this game are useless and know nothing about what mentoring they stand for, over 90% people just become Mentors to use Novice Network ( where 5 out 100 Mentors interact with people there, talking, socializing and answering questions, while the another 95 not even say "Hi" when Log in and loves to kick random people for nonsense and trivial reasons ) or because the Crown is "cute" to use at your nick name.
    Explain to me how your requirements help solve this problem.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuC365vjzBFmvbu6M7dB80A

  10. #120
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers View Post
    Imo Mentor Requiriments still easy, it should be at least:

    - PVE Mentor: all combat jobs at Lv80 + 3000 Commendations + All Extreme and Savage Cleared.

    - Craft/Gather Mentor: All Craft/Gathering Jobs at Lv80 + 5000 Collectables + All Master Recipes/Folklore + All Job Quests and NPCs deliveries done ( including Crystallium ).

    - PVP Mentor: 1000 Frontline + 1000 Feast + 1000 Rival Wings.

    Most of Mentors in this game are useless and know nothing about what mentoring they stand for, over 90% people just become Mentors to use Novice Network ( where 5 out 100 Mentors interact with people there, talking, socializing and answering questions, while the another 95 not even say "Hi" when Log in and loves to kick random people for nonsense and trivial reasons ) or because the Crown is "cute" to use at your nick name.
    so you want 5 people to be in novice chat and there is a high chance that they don't actually want to even help anyone.
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