New Mentor requirements

[AkaeiNox]

An issue is that people thinks that the Novice Network is some sort of global linkshell.

[Voltyblast]

You are going to need:
-1,000 dungeons/raids/trials completed
-1,500 player commendations (A Huge increase from 300 ty for this any steeper requirements is better than current ones)
-1 tank lv80 and complete role questline
-1 healer lv80 and complete role questline
-1 DPS lv80 and complete 1 of the role questlines

That is the new requirements for Battle mentor submission whereas trade mentors requirements haven't changed since they announced them pre ShB.

/Laughs in over 3000 comms

Not that it matters considering that helping is heavily discouraged due to the change of rules. I'll just renew it for keeping the extra roulette.
Wouldn't want to be banned because of "compelling playstyle" to someone...

[TaranTatsuuchi]

The previous published requirement was 300 commendations (as well as the others.)

The change has suddenly moved from 300 to 5 times that. (Again, also a barrier to entry for new players.)

I have given feedback to SE in a form that they can recognize within their business framework/focus. (This does not mean I have quit; it is one of 3 options.)

I stated two reasons why I play. The assumption that one supersedes the other is not correct. Pursuing the new requirements negates my ability to play with my FC. That absolutely impacts what I enjoy and how I do it. (Playing with people I know and have played with online for 20 years - all of which are family members. All.)

I am sorry if that does not make sense.

My feedback to SE still stands.


PS: I absolutely agree that those who only achieved 300 commendations and temporarily played nice to reap rewards and are not actually contributing to NN or, worse, are causing drama there (see previous post), need to stop negatively impacting the game and its community.

I think Hyomin has the right of it...

The system can only check for things that the game is already tracking.



It has to go based on the achievements, and after 300 commendations, the next one is 500 which was probably deemed too little.

The next one after that is 1500.

[Saidosha]

Oooooh! FASHION MENTORS! That's what we need! Selfless glamour artists dedicated to teaching the masses how to play The True Endgame!

While I have a "main look" for RDM, I have been running in joke outfits while leveling stuff for this mog event. With Halloween looming, I've been rocking the old pumpkin head I got forever ago, the black bikini/tanga, and I think the crystarium gloves/boots. It's not really meant to be pretty so much as silly, but it has gotten a few jibes in chat.

Otherwise, I'll just wish the glamour system was better and less restrictive, as I'd be even more experimental then.

[Omymy]

I'm one of the people who gives comms based primarily on glam. I don't often see players who distinguish themselves through above-and-beyond performance (ie: no healers or tanks are inherently entitled to my comm. In fact, sometimes they're the ones doing the least... yes, I'm looking specifically at you, "pure" healers.)

Sooo... if I weren't commending cinnamon buns and sweet popotos for the effort they put into their glam, I doubt I'd be commending anyone for the lack of effort they put into their gameplay.

Perhaps the road to 1500 comms isn't as hard as some seem to think. Maybe all it takes is a bit of work on their fashion-fu?

Oooooh! FASHION MENTORS! That's what we need! Selfless glamour artists dedicated to teaching the masses how to play The True Endgame!

I'm sorry I'm no match for you. We will try to improve so that you feel proud.

No.

[Violet_Galaxy]

I'm one of the people who gives comms based primarily on glam. I don't often see players who distinguish themselves through above-and-beyond performance (ie: no healers or tanks are inherently entitled to my comm. In fact, sometimes they're the ones doing the least... yes, I'm looking specifically at you, "pure" healers.)

Sooo... if I weren't commending cinnamon buns and sweet popotos for the effort they put into their glam, I doubt I'd be commending anyone for the lack of effort they put into their gameplay.

Perhaps the road to 1500 comms isn't as hard as some seem to think. Maybe all it takes is a bit of work on their fashion-fu?

Oooooh! FASHION MENTORS! That's what we need! Selfless glamour artists dedicated to teaching the masses how to play The True Endgame!

I'm all for Fashion Mentors. Real fashion, mind you. Not that BS at the Gold Saucer where you grab things out of your closet blindfolded and put them on.

[Jojoya]

An issue is that people thinks that the Novice Network is some sort of global linkshell.

Perhaps that's because that's how mentors have treated it on many worlds, answering new player requests for assistance with "L2google" if they don't outright ignore them.

[Barraind]

It has to go based on the achievements,

Why would that have to be true?

Commendations are displayed on the character panel, and as far as I am aware, anything else displayed there can and is referenced elsewhere without requiring related achievements.

Mentors are supposed to be players who are helping other players have a good game experience.

Which can include, but is not limited to (or reflected in game in any way)

Organizing community events (be it silly crap or hunt trains)
Answering questions asked by new / returning / slow / dense people (which is generally done everywhere BUT small group content)
Theorycrafting rotations and gear
Crafting stuff for people who have mats and need them crafted
Helping people decorate their homes
Helping people do beast tribe named fates in ARR

[Bonbori]

While I have a "main look" for RDM, I have been running in joke outfits while leveling stuff for this mog event. With Halloween looming, I've been rocking the old pumpkin head I got forever ago, the black bikini/tanga, and I think the crystarium gloves/boots. It's not really meant to be pretty so much as silly, but it has gotten a few jibes in chat.

Otherwise, I'll just wish the glamour system was better and less restrictive, as I'd be even more experimental then.

That is cute! It reminds me of the bedsheet ghost I once got in my MSQ roulette! I couldn't deal with them looming over my shoulder in every cutscene XD
It was the only thing making my bazillionth Praetorium run bearable and I think that's ultimately the best measure of who deserves a comm: did that person's presence improve my experience in this duty? Yes? Then they deserve a reward and nobody gets to tell me that was an invalid choice.

(And yups, I agree, I wish they'd stop putting job restrictions on glamour, there are so many pieces that fit together perfectly in previews but can never actually be worn at the same time >.<)

As an aside, here's someone I would nominate to be a Fashion Mentor in a heartbeat:



If we ever met in some roulettes, he would be guaranteed as many commendations as I could throw at him! This is someone who has WON the game. There is nothing left for him to do in FF14 except standing outside the Limsa Aetheryte Plaza and dancing his buff little pom off like there's no tomorrow.

[Tint]

It really doesn't matter much if commendations are given out randomly or based on glamour or whatever - and I am pretty sure most people avoid giving them to a person who plays with their face rolling over the keyboard. So in order to get them you need at least a basic understanding of your job. And then it's one huge time-gate, wich ensures you have played the game a lot, wich will make you automatically better at playing the game due to training.

And if really a lot of people commend the worst person in the party - well, we will get the mentors we deserve then I think. We ourself have voted them into that position.