New Mentor requirements

[Omymy]

I'm one of the people who gives comms based primarily on glam. I don't often see players who distinguish themselves through above-and-beyond performance (ie: no healers or tanks are inherently entitled to my comm. In fact, sometimes they're the ones doing the least... yes, I'm looking specifically at you, "pure" healers.)

Sooo... if I weren't commending cinnamon buns and sweet popotos for the effort they put into their glam, I doubt I'd be commending anyone for the lack of effort they put into their gameplay.

Perhaps the road to 1500 comms isn't as hard as some seem to think. Maybe all it takes is a bit of work on their fashion-fu?

Oooooh! FASHION MENTORS! That's what we need! Selfless glamour artists dedicated to teaching the masses how to play The True Endgame!

I'm sorry I'm no match for you. We will try to improve so that you feel proud.

No.

[Violet_Galaxy]

I'm one of the people who gives comms based primarily on glam. I don't often see players who distinguish themselves through above-and-beyond performance (ie: no healers or tanks are inherently entitled to my comm. In fact, sometimes they're the ones doing the least... yes, I'm looking specifically at you, "pure" healers.)

Sooo... if I weren't commending cinnamon buns and sweet popotos for the effort they put into their glam, I doubt I'd be commending anyone for the lack of effort they put into their gameplay.

Perhaps the road to 1500 comms isn't as hard as some seem to think. Maybe all it takes is a bit of work on their fashion-fu?

Oooooh! FASHION MENTORS! That's what we need! Selfless glamour artists dedicated to teaching the masses how to play The True Endgame!

I'm all for Fashion Mentors. Real fashion, mind you. Not that BS at the Gold Saucer where you grab things out of your closet blindfolded and put them on.

[AkaeiNox]

An issue is that people thinks that the Novice Network is some sort of global linkshell.

[Jojoya]

An issue is that people thinks that the Novice Network is some sort of global linkshell.

Perhaps that's because that's how mentors have treated it on many worlds, answering new player requests for assistance with "L2google" if they don't outright ignore them.

[Voltyblast]

You are going to need:
-1,000 dungeons/raids/trials completed
-1,500 player commendations (A Huge increase from 300 ty for this any steeper requirements is better than current ones)
-1 tank lv80 and complete role questline
-1 healer lv80 and complete role questline
-1 DPS lv80 and complete 1 of the role questlines

That is the new requirements for Battle mentor submission whereas trade mentors requirements haven't changed since they announced them pre ShB.

/Laughs in over 3000 comms

Not that it matters considering that helping is heavily discouraged due to the change of rules. I'll just renew it for keeping the extra roulette.
Wouldn't want to be banned because of "compelling playstyle" to someone...

[Barraind]

It has to go based on the achievements,

Why would that have to be true?

Commendations are displayed on the character panel, and as far as I am aware, anything else displayed there can and is referenced elsewhere without requiring related achievements.

Mentors are supposed to be players who are helping other players have a good game experience.

Which can include, but is not limited to (or reflected in game in any way)

Organizing community events (be it silly crap or hunt trains)
Answering questions asked by new / returning / slow / dense people (which is generally done everywhere BUT small group content)
Theorycrafting rotations and gear
Crafting stuff for people who have mats and need them crafted
Helping people decorate their homes
Helping people do beast tribe named fates in ARR

[Tint]

It really doesn't matter much if commendations are given out randomly or based on glamour or whatever - and I am pretty sure most people avoid giving them to a person who plays with their face rolling over the keyboard. So in order to get them you need at least a basic understanding of your job. And then it's one huge time-gate, wich ensures you have played the game a lot, wich will make you automatically better at playing the game due to training.

And if really a lot of people commend the worst person in the party - well, we will get the mentors we deserve then I think. We ourself have voted them into that position.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Why would that have to be true?

Commendations are displayed on the character panel, and as far as I am aware, anything else displayed there can and is referenced elsewhere without requiring related achievements.

...

The devs have mentioned it before, Flags.


The system checks for Flags that gets set on certain Milestones are reached.

Many of those flags are achievements, that's why for example, you can only reobtain the Garo gear if you've gotten the achievement for it.
The Calamity salvager checks the flags that are set by the achievements to see what you are allowed to purchase from it.



The mentor check is the same way, do you have this Commendation achievement flag, do you have the flags for completing the role quests, do you have this instance number achievement flag, that's just how they set up how things check other things in the game.

[DenzelVilliers]

Imo Mentor Requiriments still easy, it should be at least:

- PVE Mentor: all combat jobs at Lv80 + 3000 Commendations + All Extreme and Savage Cleared.

- Craft/Gather Mentor: All Craft/Gathering Jobs at Lv80 + 5000 Collectables + All Master Recipes/Folklore + All Job Quests and NPCs deliveries done ( including Crystallium ).

- PVP Mentor: 1000 Frontline + 1000 Feast + 1000 Rival Wings.

Most of Mentors in this game are useless and know nothing about what mentoring they stand for, over 90% people just become Mentors to use Novice Network ( where 5 out 100 Mentors interact with people there, talking, socializing and answering questions, while the another 95 not even say "Hi" when Log in and loves to kick random people for nonsense and trivial reasons ) or because the Crown is "cute" to use at your nick name.

[linay]

All Extreme and Savage Cleared.

That's beyond what a mentor needs to do. Mentors are there to help new and returning players trying to get into the game, not necessarily help with endgame content, though they can do that as well, such as via mentor roulette.

The same thing probably can be said about some of your proposed crafter/gatherer requirements.