Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Senn]

Here's some more male viera art I found by twitter user @psyblix


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also late to the party but I finally got around to that hare(m) fanzine. its got lots of lovely art and after flipping through I like that one of the most visible constants between the various artists and styles is big hair on male viera too :}

I've seen some art floating around from that zine, and it's good art. Although I have to admit, I don't really like seeing male viera in risque poses or clothing, so it really wasn't for me. I should have expected that from something called Hare(M) though lol

I was hoping Hare(M) would be something that could be presented to SE in support of the addition of male viera, but because of the risque content in there, and the fact that mostly japanese business men would be looking at this, I don't think it's suitable for presentation...

I hope that if another zine is created in the future, it will be more PG so that it can be presented to the devs.

[Omymy]

Your comment is irrelevant.

Arngrim stated that male midlanders, au ra, miqo'te, and elezen are feminine, which is false. It's true their faces can be made to look softer/feminine/however you want to define it, but their bodies are not.

Your topic is irrelevant, male vieras would never been released.

Don't waste your time. [makes something up to make people i'm angry at look bad].

Next time ill use "xD" so you see my happiness.

[Sharksandrew]

Your topic is irrelevant, male vieras would never been released.

This was said about Viera in general and look where we are now. Let people want what the want. You are not the forum police. If the topic was irrelevant the mods would have taken this topic down.

[Omymy]

This was said about Viera in general and look where we are now. Let people want what the want. You are not the forum police. If the topic was irrelevant the mods would have taken this topic down.

Oh, do they released a new race with the expansion?, that was a surprise.

Enjoy the illusion.

[reivaxe]

I'm confused.

Are people now asking for Boy buns to basically be flat chested versions of female Viera? Like, what's with this talk?
Yes, outside of Highlander/ Roebros/ Hrothgar you CAN MAKE any male in this game look cute/ soft/ feminine like some Kpop boi. That's because they have slim builds that allow for that as well as face options that can make them look that way and gear options that can give off that feeling. It's an option, I can see some cat boi running around with the pissed off manly looking face looking GARR af and I can see a lil soft kitty boi pass right on by in his best truck stop teen get up.

Now IDK why people would want that to be the only option or the default shape for them. I personally find this obsession with their body shape to be on the gross side ... they're gonna be tall and skinny and basically a better looking Elezen with black coded face features like the females IF the devs bother making them happen. Which means you'd def have the option to make them look more ore less manly depending on face.

Like Yoshi said, I personally think "whats the point of having another handsome race when the only difference is the ears" and would prefer (IF they happened. I think it's not gonna happen ... still waiting to see if they address the Hrothgar hair sht whenever they update things) that they look like this. Full on animal heads with fur. Would be good for people who wanna play a furry dude whose not a beefy boi and that kinda inclusion to the line up would be worth the effort. But that's just me.

[zaverxi]

I like how people are using this thread to be toxic when the entire purpose of it, as proven by the title and first post, is to generate support for removing the gender lock. Well done, toxic ffxiv fandom.

Anyway, to the actual subject at hand, there was a lore blurb on the Viera even before ShB dropped. And they gave their reasons for why they didn't release two full races.

1. They have stated that after these, there will be no new races in ffxiv. Likely, the higher ups decided this, which the devs didn't seem to happy about. So they made two entirely new races as placeholders, getting both their foot in the door, as it were.

1.a. Fans demanded Viera, and have been demanding for years. We are the customer, and good business means making customers happy.

1.b. the devs wanted to make a more beastly race. They knew this was their last shot to do so, and they settled on another race that already existed in the franchise, the Ronso.

2. No one has stated outright that there will never be male viera or female hrothgar. My opinion is they simply didn't have time to create the entire concepts of both, and given the reaction of the playerbase to the lack of it, it is more than likely this will change in the future.

3. They have stated no new races, which means whatever new things they add will be related to what is there already. It's even possible that this was a marketing ploy to garner more interest. Nothing like creating conflict and then 'cater to demands' to draw more people in. Imagine all the fantasias they'll sell to people who 'finally get what they want'.

4. Character modeling. Just like with the whole headgear situation with the viera and hrothgar, they'd have to go through thousands of models and modify them for the new genders. Tbh, I'd rather they finish that on the female viera and male hrothgar first. This fact shows they rushed it, so they need to finish development on these before they bring the others out.

In closing, tl;dr, there's many factors why we didn't get male viera and female hrothgar. These are the most likely points, and all will no doubt be corrected in the future. It may be 5.25, it may be 6.0, but if they removed gender lock for male miqo'te and female roegadyn, they can do it again for male viera and female hrothgar.

[Rokke]

Like Yoshi said, I personally think "whats the point of having another handsome race when the only difference is the ears" and would prefer (IF they happened. I think it's not gonna happen ... still waiting to see if they address the Hrothgar hair sht whenever they update things) that they look like this. Full on animal heads with fur. Would be good for people who wanna play a furry dude whose not a beefy boi and that kinda inclusion to the line up would be worth the effort. But that's just me.

Had fem Viera also been more beastly, this could have been a fun option...but when the ladies look like 12's humanoid supermodels, it'd be odd to pair them with something non-human. We already have a race where the female and male look silly standing next to one another.

[Senn]

Yes, outside of Highlander/ Roebros/ Hrothgar you CAN MAKE any male in this game look cute/ soft/ feminine like some Kpop boi.

I disagree. You can make their faces look like that, but not their body type. In my opinion, all the male races, aside from lalafell, are well built. Including elezen and miqo'te. Putting aside male viera entirely, I feel like this is a body type we are lacking, and I'd like to see it included one day.

I just want to clarify that I wouldn't mind if male viera had the physique of a kpop idol or something, but I never said that was likely to happen.

Here's the information we can go off of right now:

Actually, based off of interviews and comments from Yoshi P and Matsuno, it's likely male viera will look:

-Similar to elezen, but with better proportions
-Have a face similar to miqo'te
-Slim, elegant, and handsome
-Body type similar to Toru Rikiishi before his fight with Joe (from Ashita no Joe). In other words, a slim but toned light weight boxer

Honestly, I don't think a body type like Omega M is that far off the mark from how male viera were described. I think Omega M's physique, which is still toned and strong looking, but slender, would be suitable. That's just my opinion.

I personally find this obsession with their body shape to be on the gross side ...

Sounds like a personal problem. What are you trying to imply exactly? You get people talking about butt sliders for females, but this crosses the line for you? I mean, was this comment even necessary?

[dustdjinn]

I don't care what they look like honestly. I know the team will do a good job either way.



Viera females original were beautiful but had more monster features like big claw hands and big feet. The team will clearly do whatever the want... so sit back and enjoy whether they be big or small.

[Melichoir]

In closing, tl;dr, there's many factors why we didn't get male viera and female hrothgar. These are the most likely points, and all will no doubt be corrected in the future. It may be 5.25, it may be 6.0, but if they removed gender lock for male miqo'te and female roegadyn, they can do it again for male viera and female hrothgar.

Considering the amount of work that current Viera and Hrothgar need, I doubt we would see anything before 6.0. I speculated that if they went to work on fem Hrothgar and Male Viera at the time the xpac dropped and focused on it intensely, maybe 5.3 or so at the earliest. In reality, 6.0 would be likely considering itd be a selling point and the turn over time for the races will likely be quicker after they work out the bugs from the current models.