New Mentor requirements

[MsQi]

Mentor status still requires 0 mentoring. Nothing new.

[HyperiusUltima]

Imo Mentor Requiriments still easy, it should be at least:

- PVE Mentor: all combat jobs at Lv80 + 3000 Commendations + All Extreme and Savage Cleared.

- Craft/Gather Mentor: All Craft/Gathering Jobs at Lv80 + 5000 Collectables + All Master Recipes/Folklore + All Job Quests and NPCs deliveries done ( including Crystallium ).

- PVP Mentor: 1000 Frontline + 1000 Feast + 1000 Rival Wings.

Most of Mentors in this game are useless and know nothing about what mentoring they stand for, over 90% people just become Mentors to use Novice Network ( where 5 out 100 Mentors interact with people there, talking, socializing and answering questions, while the another 95 not even say "Hi" when Log in and loves to kick random people for nonsense and trivial reasons ) or because the Crown is "cute" to use at your nick name.

The problem with this is you’re taking it to hardcore. It is not meant to be that way. Also, if you saying most are bad, I’ve seen some good mentors who give advice often in the NN, but by raising requirements to high-end, there would be about only 3 or 4 mentors in the network. 3k Comms is also about 6 years of work with how it is right now.

What they’re changing it to works since it moves the goalpost away from where most can’t even play their job correctly.

[Ilyrian]

3k Comms is also about 6 years of work with how it is right now.

It really isn't.

There is an argument to be made that it really is quicker on a healer or tank, but getting 3k is not in any way difficult for someone who regularly does their roulettes.

[ctcc42]

3k Comms is also about 6 years of work with how it is right now.

A friend and I started playing in January. Based on the number of coms we have accumulated 7 to 8 months seems to be enough to get about 1000 coms. Not saying Hyperius' point does not stand. More then a year of game time is more than enough to become complacent. Waiting so long to award mentor status may not be a good thing.

I know that after playing for 10 months my competence has dropped off a little. I have become more complacent and take runs less seriously then I did, so I can see it being a bad thing to only have mentors that have played for too long.

I really think the mentor icon should be changed to something a little more humble, and all requirements to use it should be removed. Mentor roulette requirements should stay the same. But as long as the icon remains 'exclusive' people are going to misuse it to demonstrate their prestige rather then its intended purpose. It only takes the suspicion that people are doing this to give mentors a negative rep. Even if all mentors truly just wanted to help people I am sure the assertion that they are 'just show offs' would still be made.

Maybe a better way to demonstrate our in game qualifications would be a special emote? That way we can still lend authority to our statements, but by making it on demand, rather then something stuck to our characters names we could avoid the stigma of wearing the mentor icon just to show off?

Honestly though. I think the concept of 'mentor' is slightly off target. I think we need a paradigm shift from 'mentor' to 'helper' A system that ostensibly separates knowledgeable players from non-knowledgeable players is always going to generate jealousy, resentment and negativity.

I think its grate for people to have an icon by their name that advertises: 'Hi I would love to help and answer questions'. But as long as that icon is tired to an expectation of knowledge and experience, people with it, without it, and who want it are going to remain in conflict.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

I'd certainly fit into the role of the watering-can mentor.

I know a lot of General things about the game, and though I may not be knowledgeable about all the jobs I do know where the information can be found, and can point someone in that direction.

[Crushnight]

they just need to change the mentor crown to a poop emoji

Lets not bring Patrick Steward into this :P

[Tint]

I have realised something... I got my first 1500 commendations within one year, at the end of 2014, but that was with a lot of dungeon grinding because of the relic weapon. The SB relic was tied to Eureka and there are no commendations there... The next relic should be obtainable in dungeons again, increasing the commendation requirement but then force the players into content without commendations is kind of... not well thought through.

[Barraind]

I have realised something... I got my first 1500 commendations within one year, at the end of 2014, but that was with a lot of dungeon grinding because of the relic weapon. The SB relic was tied to Eureka and there are no commendations there... The next relic should be obtainable in dungeons again, increasing the commendation requirement but then force the players into content without commendations is kind of... not well thought through.

Thats part of it. I got my first 1500 when i spammed dungeons a lot.

When I came back to the game in SB after taking a break for a couple years, I was simultaneously able to be a returner and a mentor (ha).

Daily 50/60 for map and singing crystal, daily alliance/leveling/trial for xp and poetics, daily expert and raid for crafting mats and poetics, and daily whatever was left when people wanted to do them.

Now that I do raids once a week, and 3 dungeons a day at the absolute most (4 a day for the first week of this event to hit 100 for falcon + the one aquapolis orch roll), it'll take a long time to finish the couple hundred for my parade chocobo. But theres just no point in mashing out dungeons for me. I have no use for poetics beyond topsoil unless i want to do a 6th set of relic weapons at some point. I have no need for goetia since the market for those has already tanked, its easier to just buy it and not run the dungeon.