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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Yes. That's the point. That's also why Onslaught is a far superior mobility tool to Intervene, Rough Divide, and almost always Plunge. If Onslaught saves even a fifth of a GCD in melee uptime it will have made up for its cost, but unlike the other gap-closers it isn't used on cooldown and is therefore always available (except for the 10 seconds after obligatory use during Inner Release). Giving it no gauge cost would be a nerf to Warrior mobility.
    This. Not every piece of utility needs to double as a dps button you hit on CD. Otherwise they stop being utility actions. Look what happened to ToB with upheaval. It became a defensive CD people used to buff wars burst window instead of on tank busters. You were just glad when it lined up with one by accident much how other 3 tanks are happy when movemebt mechanic overlaps burst to use gap closers and get annoyed when they dont and have to hold it and sac damage, or worse, dont have it up. My cotank has resorted to begging healers for rescue half the time on titan because his gap closer isnt up. War bever has these problems because their utility is actual utility.

    If you need a 10sec ogcd to spam to be happy add 'Axe Hilt'. XX pot. 10 sec recast. But thats a terribly lame button to have. Theres no synergy. No purpose. Its just a button to spam like old dark arts but without any resource management. Its just bad. Lets not do that, and certainly not at the expense of a perfectly balanced mobility tool we have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    If you need a 10sec ogcd to spam to be happy add 'Axe Hilt'. XX pot. 10 sec recast. But thats a terribly lame button to have. Theres no synergy. No purpose. Its just a button to spam like old dark arts but without any resource management. Its just bad. Lets not do that, and certainly not at the expense of a perfectly balanced mobility tool we have now.
    I really miss Brutal Swing's animation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I really miss Brutal Swing's animation.
    Brital swing is actually yet another example of why utility shouldnt be dps buttons. You remember trying to get the entire party to stop using stun actions on ifrit so the tank could stun his moves before he became immune? 'Hey drgs dont use leg sweep or spineshatter. No brutal swing. That mnk move. Etc. The entire party had to stop using their normal rotations that had stuns built in so you could actually....stun things.

    Sticking utility with dps gain actions just doesnt work out because dps always takes priority over utility unless absolutely neccessary (and if it isnt neccessary, then you dont really need the utility in the 1st place) and then it annoys people to lower their dps when it is neccessary. So its eithee no one cares, or makes people mad. That sounds like a bad skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    Brital swing is actually yet another example of why utility shouldnt be dps buttons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I really miss Brutal Swing's animation.
    Yeah, but, like, I'm just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    Brital swing is actually yet another example of why utility shouldnt be dps buttons.
    That seems a better example of why a game shouldn't have a braindead DR system. We've have comprehensive ways of fixing exactly those problems, listed right here on these forums, since ARR, and yet rather than making even the slightest attempt to fix CC, they opted instead to remove it from the game.
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