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    Galenini's Avatar
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    Levy Sennyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Mentors are supposed to be players who are helping other players have a good game experience.

    You sound like someone who doesn't bother to help others based on what you wrote. You say you stick to your FC, rarely doing content with random players.

    If that's the case, then correct - I don't believe you should not have mentor status because you're not interested in helping others.

    Why do you think you deserve to keep mentor status when you aren't performing the role of a mentor? Just because you managed to reach 300 commendations so you were entitled to a crown next to your name?

    Mentorship in this game is not limited to ONLY running 4-man dungeons. It includes MSQs, which is not precluded by running with an FC. Nor answering questions in NN, offering crafting help, and/or crafted components, gear, etcetera, as well as helping in open world content.

    I will often be running with my FC in a 4-man, tanking, and be answering questions at the same time, as many other mentors also do. (In addition to all those PuG instances, obviously. Cough.)

    SE has even decided that players who do "nothing but crafting" are viable mentors. Not sure that fits the definition of "helping other players have a good game experience" unless putting expensive crafted items on the MB counts. <wink>


    oh, and sorry, just because it's late and I'm punchy: the other FC members don't count as players?

    Apologies for stepping in.

    I obviously need to stop posting.



    Jojoya, I absolutely agree with you that mentors ought to be helpful. And I'm truly sorry for any bad experiences you've had. There are some bad apples out there that abuse the system, and that needs to stop. (And I'm not sure the right way to do that without also eliminating some good ones, or slowing down potential new ones who could be good.)

    I don't think commendations accurately measures what SE thinks it does. And that's sad.
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    Last edited by Galenini; 10-04-2019 at 08:16 PM. Reason: fixing missing "that needs to stop"

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    Elemiera Moonfrost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galenini View Post
    Mentorship in this game is not limited to ONLY running 4-man dungeons. It includes MSQs, which is not precluded by running with an FC. Nor answering questions in NN, offering crafting help, and/or crafted components, gear, etcetera, as well as helping in open world content.

    I will often be running with my FC in a 4-man, tanking, and be answering questions at the same time, as many other mentors also do. (In addition to all those PuG instances, obviously. Cough.)

    SE has even decided that players who do "nothing but crafting" are viable mentors. Not sure that fits the definition of "helping other players have a good game experience" unless putting expensive crafted items on the MB counts. <wink>
    For some players like me crafting is all we like to do because it helps avoid toxic people like some here who think their mindset is superior than others.And no not all craft mentors only put expensive stuff on the MB, in fact I gone broke helping others make stuff and not only that I teach them about it what stat.. what gear they should look for and about specialist.. custom deliveries and what not.Before you judge crafters and question the relativity of their mentorship 1st become a crafter to see what is involved into to understand how a tradecraft mentor can help new players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisnetika View Post
    For some players like me crafting is all we like to do because it helps avoid toxic people like some here who think their mindset is superior than others.And no not all craft mentors only put expensive stuff on the MB, in fact I gone broke helping others make stuff and not only that I teach them about it what stat.. what gear they should look for and about specialist.. custom deliveries and what not.Before you judge crafters and question the relativity of their mentorship 1st become a crafter to see what is involved into to understand how a tradecraft mentor can help new players.
    My profound apologies Chrisnetika.... the <wink> there did not convey that my statement was one I've heard over and over again putting down crafters and I was trying to mock it. Because crafting mentors ARE real mentors.

    I know what it takes to craft. And how many crafting mentors go out of their way, often travelling to where new players are to deliver very needed gear. And how crafting can absolutely be an oasis of calm in a toxic environment. I craft. I tell new players all the time when they ask, that crafting is very much a sub-game within the game, and just as, if not more so, complicated as other parts of the game. SE did a damn nice job making it that way.

    The supposed-to-be cheeky comment was not meant to create an issue there.

    Again, my profound apologies.
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    Last edited by Galenini; 10-04-2019 at 06:40 PM.

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    Tiny Tina
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisnetika View Post
    For some players like me crafting is all we like to do because it helps avoid toxic people like some here who think their mindset is superior than others.
    That's the equivalent of locking yourself up in your house 24/7 to avoid birds pooping on your head ^^
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