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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    You didn't really respond to my second link, which calls truth "an absolute defense" against defamation charges. >_>
    I live in France, I could care less about the American Law System. Furthermore, what is "truth"?

    Alternative forms
    trewth (obsolete)

    Etymology
    From Middle English, from Old English trēowþ, trīewþ (“truth, veracity, faith, fidelity, loyalty, honour, pledge, covenant”), from Proto-Germanic *trewwiþō (“promise, covenant, contract”), from Proto-Indo-European *drū- (“tree”), from Proto-Indo-European *deru- (“firm, solid”), equivalent to true +‎ -th. Cognate with Icelandic tryggð (“loyalty, fidelity”).

    truth (usually uncountable; plural truths)

    1. (archaic) The state or quality of being true to someone or something; faithfulness, fidelity.

    Truth to one's own feelings is all-important in life.

    2. (obsolete) A pledge of loyalty or faith. Conformity to fact or reality; correctness, accuracy.

    There was some truth in his statement that he had no other choice.

    3. True facts, genuine depiction or statements of reality.

    The truth is that our leaders knew a lot more than they were letting on.

    4. That which is real, in a deeper sense; spiritual or ‘genuine’ reality.

    5. Something acknowledged to be true; a true statement or axiom.

    Hunger and jealousy are just eternal truths of human existence.

    6. (physics) A now-outdated term for topness. (See also truth quark.)


    1820: Beauty is truth, truth beauty, - that is all / Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know. — John Keats, ‘Ode on a Grecian Urn’ ...

    truth value (plural truth values):
    (logic) A value indicating to what extent a statement is true; in classical logic, these are the values "true" and "false".

    half-truth

    A deceptive statement , especially one that is only partly true, is incomplete , (misrepresent s reality by telling part of the truth), ...

    stretch the truth
    to exaggerate , often to the point where the truth is obscured or lost.

    The point being, everyone has their own truth. What may be true to you may not necessarily be true to another. You can interpret one plaayers actions as harassment while the player in question might claim he would not take offense to such actions if he were in your place. Alas we get to the nitty gritty of Subjective Interpretation. This is why everyone has their own version of truth.

    It's been fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    I live in France, I could care less about the American Law System. Furthermore, what is "truth"?
    Ask a French lawyer. From France's Code Pénal:

    La dénonciation, effectuée par tout moyen et dirigée contre une personne déterminée, d'un fait qui est de nature à entraîner des sanctions judiciaires, administratives ou disciplinaires et que l'on sait totalement ou partiellement inexact, lorsqu'elle est adressée soit à un officier de justice ou de police administrative ou judiciaire, soit à une autorité ayant le pouvoir d'y donner suite ou de saisir l'autorité compétente, soit aux supérieurs hiérarchiques ou à l'employeur de la personne dénoncée, est punie de cinq ans d'emprisonnement et de 45000 euros d'amende.
    English version:

    A denunciation made by any means and directed against a specified person, of a fact that is liable to cause judicial, administrative or disciplinary sanctions and that the maker knows to be totally or partially false, where it is sent either to a judicial officer or to a judicial or administrative police officer, or to an authority with power to follow it up or to refer it to the competent authority, or to hierarchical superiors or to the employer of the person concerned, is punished by five years' imprisonment and a fine of €45,000.
    Yes, I'm that bored. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Ask a French lawyer. From France's Code Pénal:

    Yes, I'm that bored. >_>
    *Looks at his 2012 Code Civil 111th Edition* DAMNIT!

    *Runs downstairs to ask his French Lawyer Uncle*

    Uncle replies "Which Countrie's Laws Govern the Internet?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    *Looks at his 2012 Code Civil 111th Edition* DAMNIT!

    *Runs downstairs to ask his French Lawyer Uncle*

    Uncle replies "Which Countrie's Laws Govern the Internet?"
    It's about to be the good ole U S of A. . .Yay for SOPA!? >_<

    Anyway, if the laws of both the US (where I live) and France (where you live) agree that defamation requires that the statement be false, why wouldn't we assume for the sake of conversation that it's a valid requirement until presented with a case in a different jurisdiction? Especially since I'm certain that the nations' respective laws also relate to their citizens' posting defamatory things online.
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