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    But there is no personal gain or disadvantage to someone else. They CAN do it if they wanted to. They can also not do it if they don't want to. To do the skip is as simple as counting 1,2,3. It's not some ground breaking bug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    Is there anyway I can contact a GM to confirm this question? Because if it's possible to do with no problems then I'd like to do it as it cuts off 30 minutes to the longer of the two dungeons. Not everyone can play 15 hours a day. Simply not doing the roulette would be a huge blow for leveling my jobs as it gives by far the most amount of exp.
    You can contact them through email or in game support. I would suggest you do so since you don't seem to believe anyone here despite your own doubts. If it seems wrong then it probably is. Good life tip right there. Also, many people manage to do things just fine even with a limited play schedule. You could too I'm sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    Can you tell me what the rule is that I am breaking then?
    It is an exploit. Exploits are against the ToS. Thank you to the person for posting that bit. It also disrupts the gameplay of others which is also specifically mentioned.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 10-01-2019 at 06:17 AM.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    But there is no personal gain or disadvantage to someone else. They CAN do it if they wanted to. They can also not do it if they don't want to. To do the skip is as simple as counting 1,2,3. It's not some ground breaking bug.
    It's clear you just want someone to validate your rule breaking here, but there is personal gain in the form of time, so the rule absolutely does apply. If they wanted people to be able to skip it, they would still let people skip it as they did before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    But there is no personal gain
    They increased the exp payout when they made the cutscenes unskippable in compensation for our time.

    You are bypassing their intentions and still receiving the full rewards.

    This is exactly the definition of exploiting for personal gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    But there is no personal gain or disadvantage to someone else. They CAN do it if they wanted to. They can also not do it if they don't want to. To do the skip is as simple as counting 1,2,3. It's not some ground breaking bug.
    You gain time. A way you can gain time without exploiting poor game mechanics would be to not do the MS Roulette.
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    Irony is, the time spent arguing on this very thread could have been spent doing MSQ roulette.

    Heck, you even get cutscene time to respond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    You can contact them through email or in game support. I would suggest you do so since you don't seem to believe anyone here despite your own doubts. If it seems wrong then it probably is. Good life tip right there. Also, many people manage to do things just fine even with a limited play schedule. You could too I'm sure.



    It is an exploit. Exploits are against the ToS. Thank you to the person for posting that bit. It also disrupts the gameplay of others which is also specifically mentioned.
    So by your logic, doing fates and getting agro then syncing back to your real level to tank the mobs for friends or others is also against the TOS because that's not how the game was intended. This is why I question this so much because I could go on for hours about small things like this that give the player a small gain by working around the system.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by JowyAtreides View Post
    Irony is, the time spent arguing on this very thread could have been spent doing MSQ roulette.

    Heck, you even get cutscene time to respond.
    Already did my MSQ and this is why I'm asking about it because people did it and I want to know if I can do it or not. Everyone on here is attacking me because they think I'm this monster who breaks the game and hurts the game play experience for everyone. People in that run praised the people who skipped btw. They where happy to be out of it quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    So by your logic, doing fates and getting agro then syncing back to your real level to tank the mobs for friends or others is also against the TOS because that's not how the game was intended. This is why I question this so much because I could go on for hours about small things like this that give the player a small gain by working around the system.
    Fates aren't really part of the discussion, but if they considered that to be against the ToS I'm sure that they would have acted by now. It is their game, their rules. If you're looking for validation you aren't going to get any, at least from me. I will just keep telling you that you're wrong, which you are, because SE makes the rules and we have to follow them or risk punishment. If you don't like it then that's your problem, not mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    Already did my MSQ and this is why I'm asking about it because people did it and I want to know if I can do it or not. Everyone on here is attacking me because they think I'm this monster who breaks the game and hurts the game play experience for everyone. People in that run praised the people who skipped btw. They where happy to be out of it quicker.
    People praised it there, sure. But praising it doesn't mean it's not breaking a rule, as others have highlighted in this thread. If they wanted people to skip cutscenes, they would still have the cutscene skip option in those dungeons. Bypassing it through an unintended exploit is breaking a rule.

    But literally all it takes is one person not enjoying it and writing up that report to have you face-to-face with a GM. You aren't going to get validation on wanting to break the rule; you can do it all you like, but you're the one risking your account to do so, keep that in mind. its your choice to take the risk or not.
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