MSQ cutscene skipping against TOS?

[MariaArvana]

So if I go out into the world and find a player doing this fate "glitch", I can simple report them and have the fate system reworked because it breaks my enjoyment in having a hard fought fight won the "real" way?

If the GM thinks its against the rules, then sure, that report could go somewhere.

The only reason the MSQ roulette got reworked is that there was enough outrage from people getting their story ruined that it reached the higher up devs. Your report wouldn't get the FATE system reworked unless there was enough wide-spread outrage.

But its super simple. You can do the skip, but you risk getting a ban for doing so if you have certain people in your party. That's it. Take the risk or not, but accept the consequences of your actions if you get pulled into the Mordion Gaol one day.
I had a friend who pulled this exact exploit and unfortunately for him he got a nice suspension slapped on him a day later. Was pretty funny seeing him vanish from existence in our Amdapor run only for him to get angry over discord, and I was like "I tried to warn you."

[Enla]

I'm NOT going to be doing this because I don't want to risk my account. I still would like to have heard the words from the houses mouth because it would be really nice to skip something so boring to have to sit though, it feels like a punishment having to sit though the 55 minutes of cutscenes. I sent a report to a GM in game 30 minutes ago to try and get a response but as I figured, no one messaged me back, leaving me in the dark.

If I learned anything from this, it's that most people respond to me with black and white response while others had been more nicely spoken and respected my debate and for that I thank you. I'm leaving this post now, maybe check in on it a few days in hopes a GM messages but I'm not going to hold my breath, they don't seem to care that much about my question and a possible fix for it if this is indeed a problem. The easy fix would be to do what they do with the other cut scenes, with out going into details on how what is done in order to skip MSQ CS.

The roulette is there for new players, not the rest of us. The only reason the roulette gives so much experience is because the cutscenes were locked and the frustration the developers naturally understood this might cause. If you don't like it don't do the roulette it's that simple. The only way the skips will ever be brought back is if the experience for the roulette is nuked from orbit back to what it used to be - and SE would sooner turn those instances into solo-trust ventures than do that. There is no 'problem' here as the skips are against what SE wants, and thus against the TOS.

[ErryK]

The roulette is there for new players, not the rest of us.

Wouldn't it be accessible only by greenleaves if that were the case?

[Enla]

Wouldn't it be accessible only by greenleaves if that were the case?

If they wanted the return of 60 minute queue times then yes. Older players get benefits for doing the roulette purely because it was a nightmare to fill it way back before the roulette was implemented, and even again until they doubled the rewards because it's first incarnation wasn't a good enough carrot for most people. But make no mistake we're filling it for the benefit of newbies and are given appropriate rewards for our time, not the other way around.

[ErryK]

But make no mistake we're filling it for the benefit of newbies and are given appropriate rewards for our time, not the other way around.

Veterans would be getting absolutely nothing if that were true though.

[Enla]

Veterans would be getting absolutely nothing if that were true though.

And once more the queue would be absolutely dead, again, if we weren't given anything. Back when I first did those dungeons back in ARR it took over a solid hour each time to get in until finally I begged my FC to help me. Where, hilariously, I was screamed at for watching the cutscenes and likely would ave been kicked had my FC mates not made up the majority of the ranks to keep it from happening. Nowadays we are given rewards to fill the queue for the benefit of the newbies and because at the time when the queue was revamped what would become the framework for Trusts was still in it's infancy. Though given the tantrum's I've seen on the forums about how the near tripled rewards are owed to veterans and the skips should be removed I wouldn't shed a single tear if the MSQ revamp does turn those into proper Trust dungeons.

[RyuSaarva]

Wouldn't it be accessible only by greenleaves if that were the case?

the entire point of roulettes is to get new players have their duty pop, if only new players could use roulettes their duties would not pop.

[ErryK]

the entire point of roulettes is to get new players have their duty pop, if only new players could use roulettes their duties would not pop.

And once more the queue would be absolutely dead, again.

So it isn't for new players then? It's for both new players and veterans to gain something, is that right? I heard from a recent interview Yoshi feels like he isn't providing much for veterans of the game, and has been focusing too much on new players.

Though given the tantrum's I've seen on the forums about how the near tripled rewards are owed to veterans and the skips should be removed I wouldn't shed a single tear if the MSQ revamp does turn those into proper Trust dungeons.

They probably should do that, because MSQ roulette in particular is a controversial topic for many reasons.

[Tyssyn]

OP, as many people have stated, the inability to skip cutscenes in the MSQs was put in place because players doing it for the first time were being harrassed or kicked because they wanted to watch the cut scenes. So think about this, you use this exploit to skip them but the rest of your party doesn't. Or part of the party does, but there are people in the group that want to watch them. Those who skip either start harrassing the people who aren't to use the exploit as well, or run ahead and do the fights - if you are the only one skipping, you will have to do the fights by yourself - and the new players who haven't done it before are getting their experience ruined. Which is why they made cutscenes unskippable and gave the 2 msq dungeons such big rewards to compensate for the time spent, so new players wouldn't have their experience ruined. What would the purpose be for you to use the exploit if no one else in the group is not, you won't get it done any faster.

[Arillyn]

OP, as many people have stated, the inability to skip cutscenes in the MSQs was put in place because players doing it for the first time were being harrassed or kicked because they wanted to watch the cut scenes. So think about this, you use this exploit to skip them but the rest of your party doesn't. Or part of the party does, but there are people in the group that want to watch them. Those who skip either start harrassing the people who aren't to use the exploit as well, or run ahead and do the fights - if you are the only one skipping, you will have to do the fights by yourself - and the new players who haven't done it before are getting their experience ruined. Which is why they made cutscenes unskippable and gave the 2 msq dungeons such big rewards to compensate for the time spent, so new players wouldn't have their experience ruined. What would the purpose be for you to use the exploit if no one else in the group is not, you won't get it done any faster.

This! And also why during the Moogle Event going on you get the most Moogle tomestones from Praetorium (the longest MSQ dungeon) and 7 for the other. It's to reward for sitting through the cutscenes as well as so much xp for doing these. It's to reward "veterans" for running these so that the new people get to do their MSQ AND not have their experience ruined.