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    If you're going to protest about being upset with no Male Viera then be civil about it. I see people threatening to cancel subscriptions/ Riot/ etc. You only make yourselves look worse and I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get what you want. Those kind of people I rather see gone. Yoshi P said if the majority of the community wants it, they might look into it but they wanted to stick to the lore. It's honestly not even worth crying about it or throwing a tantrum over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    If you're going to protest about being upset with no Male Viera then be civil about it. I see people threatening to cancel subscriptions/ Riot/ etc. You only make yourselves look worse and I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get what you want. Those kind of people I rather see gone. Yoshi P said if the majority of the community wants it, they might look into it but they wanted to stick to the lore. It's honestly not even worth crying about it or throwing a tantrum over.
    Lore states a Viera can leave if the Wood/Viera race is in danger - which it currently is. This will only change is if the Empire fully stops what they're doing, which may be possible with current events. There are previous posts of mine explaining this. The excuse of lore doesn't stand; however, the excuse of resources and lack of time does. I haven't seen anyone talk about threatening to unsub or riot lately, at least not in an actual serious matter. But anyway, just thought I'd explain the lore part. This is actually from the FF14 lore of Viera.
    'You see, the Viera follow a strict code called the ‘Green Word’ that binds them to their land and prohibits all contact with the outside world unless absolutely necessary.”
    and
    Jenomis cen Lexentale: “ And while the tribes are wholly independent, they have agreed to uphold a single standard: shun all contact with the outside world unless it is to protect the jungle. ”

    There's more; that's just some of the lines that basically just have it in black and white rather than the shade of greys, they can't be misinterpreted.

    Obviously the absolutely 'necessary' is the threat of their species or the wood/Golmore Jungle.

    oh, and have some cute, yet bittersweet lore folks

    '‘The value of coexistence will not be found ‘neath a loincloth. Long has our kind endured understanding that the distance 'twixt two bodies does not dictate the distance 'twixt two souls.’”

    It seems that males and females do indeed pair off, and perhaps a male does have 'one female' who is his soul mate. It's rather sad that they're forced to be apart. The wording 'endured' certainly springs out as that's not exactly one that says it's been peaches and cream, it's painful and harsh.

    It also seems that the males may have this beaten into them - since they did coexist with their siblings and family until they were taken away. A hard lesson to learn. I can only imagine that the war that resulted in them losing their original homeland was something so 'out there' that had them ending up living like this to survive.
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 09-29-2019 at 09:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    If you're going to protest about being upset with no Male Viera then be civil about it. I see people threatening to cancel subscriptions/ Riot/ etc. You only make yourselves look worse and I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get what you want. Those kind of people I rather see gone. Yoshi P said if the majority of the community wants it, they might look into it but they wanted to stick to the lore. It's honestly not even worth crying about it or throwing a tantrum over.
    So saying that you wont continue playing the game that you have to pay for (we are all customers) is now threatening? You do know that people cancelling their subs without telling SE why are the worst for SE because they seemingly cant know why? That Yoshida himself has stated more than once that criticism of any kind is worth more than just compliments?

    Those that go to a forum and post their thoughs on why they will probably stop playing care about the game....if they didnt they would just silently leave and be a monetary loss to SE.

    SE also said more than enough that its not about the lore..

    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    Face, bodyshape and all looks like typical asian idol.

    I don't know what country you're from, but in Europe, men don't usually have that physiognomy in general. They look like rickety teenagers, for God's sake.
    I am from Germany so no I would say that they are the built of average men. Heck would you go and say that every japanese men (including Yoshida) is feminine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    It doesn't help that it's hinted that the female Hrothgar don't look like their males - this could be good or bad honestly.
    I think this was only in the english version of the lore? But it would be pretty bad if they were quite different in their looks. Please just give us male Viera and female Hrothgar that look like they belong to the existing gender. No big difference like the Au Ra again. (Its funny and sad to see Au Ra male children next to my character...they are nearly the same height..)
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    Last edited by Alleo; 10-01-2019 at 06:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    So saying that you wont continue playing the game that you have to pay for (we are all customers) is now threatening? You do know that people cancelling their subs without telling SE why are the worst for SE because they seemingly cant know why? That Yoshida himself has stated more than once that criticism of any kind is worth more than just compliments?

    Those that go to a forum and post their thoughs on why they will probably stop playing care about the game....if they didnt they would just silently leave and be a monetary loss to SE.

    SE also said more than enough that its not about the lore..



    I am from Germany so no I would say that they are the built of average men. Heck would you go and say that every japanese men (including Yoshida) is feminine?



    I think this was only in the english version of the lore? But it would be pretty bad if they were quite different in their looks. Please just give us male Viera and female Hrothgar that look like they belong to the existing gender. No big difference like the Au Ra again. (Its funny and sad to see Au Ra male children next to my character...they are nearly the same height..)
    Asia doesn't start and end in Japan. Sorry to take you out of your bubble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    Asia doesn't start and end in Japan. Sorry to take you out of your bubble.
    And? I am quite sure that lot of men in other asian countries would be quite insulted to be called feminine just because they dont have a huge muscle mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    And? I am quite sure that lot of men in other asian countries would be quite insulted to be called feminine just because they dont have a huge muscle mass.
    I talked about asian idols. But yeah, you are right, this dude is so masculine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    I talked about asian idols. But yeah, you are right, this dude is so masculine.

    The definition of masculine varies based on culture. So while if may not be that for you, he could be masculine for others. Big Oof on your comment dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustdjinn View Post
    The definition of masculine varies based on culture. So while if may not be that for you, he could be masculine for others. Big Oof on your comment dude.



    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    They don't look like teenagers and I say it as somebody from European region. More than this, one of Miqo'te face is definitely in at least 30s-40s age gape if not older, two are in 20-30 and one is somewhere in 15-20.
    The last one can be described as teenager, others - not. Same goes for every race in the game btw, unless you play Roe/Hroth/Highlander, they all look at least in 30s.
    Also, I know plenty of Europeans that have nearly Miqo'te bodyshape except maybe height. They are more athletic than Midlanders, just for info. The fact that guy is a bit shorter than average and looks just toned without being bulky and doesn't have face of a old guy who experienced all pain in the world doesn't make him a teenager.
    The face that use the 10% (as much) of the players?, cool. They still look like asian idols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustdjinn View Post
    The definition of masculine varies based on culture. So while if may not be that for you, he could be masculine for others. Big Oof on your comment dude.
    Exactly. Also other than maybe one or two faces you cant really make Miquote look like that either. Most of them do not look like that and one whole race should not be put into that one category just because you might have the options to create less manly men.
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