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  1. #111
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    WalxAtNite's Avatar
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    Elainna Michaella
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    I think it's best to just ask your healer. Some tanks will pull wall to wall on the first trash pack, but then if the group wipes, the healer will sometimes get nervous, and I feel like wiping everyone wastes more time than just pulling a little less, ya know?

    The people here saying start slow and gradually ramp up are my kind of people.
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  2. #112
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    Maetimoht Berkbraena
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    As someone else has stated, if I play healer and the tank doesn't try to pull more then one group, then it's just incredibly boring to me. I can survive, but whew. I know it's possible to pull pretty much every dungeon wall to wall, with maybe one or two as an exception, but it's a matter of knowledge, skill (to use cooldowns), and comfort.
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  3. #113
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    Mike Arklight
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    yes ,slow pulls are boring but i think most of the healer community wont be angry at you just annoyed a bit that its slow depending on how their day went ^^.
    as for big pulls,if you or the healer cant handle big pulls then go slower usually the rage come from tanks who keep doing wall to wall pulls when its clear either them or healer can't really keep up.(tank takes too much damage too fast for the healer to keep up)

    as for my mentality i always think slow pulls is because tanks don't trust their healers so i try and make the tank feel safe with taking bigger groups but i still respect the slow pull nonetheless.
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  4. #114
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    Kyrion Exile
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    Balmung
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    So, brief tangent: people keep on mentioning big pulls or wall-to-wall pulls, and the only big pull I can think of is the first area in Akademia where you can pick up 4 mobs. Every other big pull is just a double mob pack before you run into a gate.

    Did I miss something, are there spots where you can pull more than two mobs at a time?
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  5. #115
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    GenBroadaxe's Avatar
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    Roehaswys Brodansawyn
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    Diabolos
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I usually pull 1 or mobs at first if it's a brand new dungeon or if the healer mentions off the bat that they're new just to feel out everyone's comfort level. If they're decked out in full on raid gear I'm going to presume they're used to stress and pull away. Always defer to the healer seems to be a good strat. I'd rather go a smidge slower and not overwhelm someone then speed through and restart multiple times. There's a difference between challenging yourself and getting overwhelmed and it's more fun overall if folks respect that.
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  6. #116
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GenBroadaxe View Post
    I usually pull 1 or mobs at first if it's a brand new dungeon or if the healer mentions off the bat that they're new just to feel out everyone's comfort level. If they're decked out in full on raid gear I'm going to presume they're used to stress and pull away. Always defer to the healer seems to be a good strat. I'd rather go a smidge slower and not overwhelm someone then speed through and restart multiple times. There's a difference between challenging yourself and getting overwhelmed and it's more fun overall if folks respect that.
    Technically your first pull should always be your biggest. Youll have all your cooldowns for the first pull. If you ramp up later youll actually have less mitigation options.
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  7. #117
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megguido View Post
    If the tank has at least half a braincell, they'll use AoE attacks against a dungeon pull. So if you get aggro on one mob, just run close to the tank and they'll pick it up quickly without even noticing. If you run away from the tank, don't expect them to rush after you to pick up that mob.
    Oh, there are healers who have less than quarter of a brain cell...
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  8. #118
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talam View Post
    So, brief tangent: people keep on mentioning big pulls or wall-to-wall pulls, and the only big pull I can think of is the first area in Akademia where you can pick up 4 mobs. Every other big pull is just a double mob pack before you run into a gate.

    Did I miss something, are there spots where you can pull more than two mobs at a time?
    Don't think the point here is "pff, you can only call 3+ pack pulls as Big Pulls". What people mean by big pulls, I think, is simply "everything between gates on the way". As in "as big as you can pull".
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  9. #119
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    Jubii Io
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    This might be out of nowhere but I feel like if dungeon design was different, the debate of tanks taking things slow wouldn't be as big of a deal as it seems to be.

    The way things are right now though, I enjoy a nice juicy pull. But if my tank wants to go slower than usual I always just suffer the run. I've never had the heart to ask them to go faster or pull more.
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  10. #120
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    Don't think the point here is "pff, you can only call 3+ pack pulls as Big Pulls". What people mean by big pulls, I think, is simply "everything between gates on the way". As in "as big as you can pull".
    Ya and 9/10 times this expansion, thats two packs. Any group should be able to handle two packs easily. You're level 70+. Shouldnt be expecting that people will all be willing to put up with small packs anymore. Some will but not all.
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