Reimbursement for Lost Tomes due to Wrongful use of Kick

[Alklios]

If you started this thread going into detail of what ACTUALLY happened to get you vote kicked, instead of being absolutely vague on the concept and name dropping an entire Data Center then more people here would be showing sympathy for you. However you worded your post as an individual account (so we can relate to you) and then tried making it a broader statement. Problem is by not actually explaining (even now with so multiple people asking why) you're hurting your entire argument and making yourself look like a clown.

There are threads you can have this general conversation in, but the way you worded your first post and the domino effect it's having is not giving YOU any credibility. Going back and editing it didn't change a thing except make you look worse by comparison when the post history for quotes tells a different story.

I readily welcome people to view the quotes as was mentioned already. The server callout means nothing for me being on Balmung, it's obviously under my character's picture

Once again idc on sympathy or not and it's starting to disturb me that's people's primary motivation apparently for posting anything here. I want rational debate over this concept and alternative suggestions breaking it down. So far it's only been minor points which I've already responded to by comparisons to other MMOs providing this service and recommending that FF14 do it to remain competitive.

Again, idk why all of you are concerned over sympathy and thumbs up. There's a problem, we need to find ways to abate it. You don't want to believe there's a problem? Compare old Q times to the mentioned data center b/f and after the server drops, reflecting how many people (and many of my friends) left the toxicity using their free server hop they didn't consider before.

[Noitems]

I readily welcome people to view the quotes as was mentioned already. The server callout means nothing for me being on Balmung, it's obviously under my character's picture

Once again idc on sympathy or not and it's starting to disturb me that's people's primary motivation apparently for posting anything here. I want rational debate over this concept and alternative suggestions breaking it down. So far it's only been minor points which I've already responded to by comparisons to other MMOs providing this service and recommending that FF14 do it to remain competitive.

Again, idk why all of you are concerned over sympathy and thumbs up. There's a problem, we need to find ways to abate it. You don't want to believe there's a problem? Compare old Q times to the mentioned data center b/f and after the server drops, reflecting how many people (and many of my friends) left the toxicity using their free server hop they didn't consider before.

Yet you still decided to edit your first post to take it completely out of your narrative. If it didn't bother you at all and you're neutral about it why not keep that part in?

Your cries for rational debate got thrown out the window the moment you told you us you got vote kicked but never explained why. That's a Part of the 5 W's for a reason, man. Hell even every post about negative GM interactions on here a person will know flat out why they're getting banned and will usually explain why to convey their message about why it was wrong. You decided to just say something on the lines of "We got into an argument" which is an vague as all hell statement which provokes more questions then answers. Not giving us an explanation is just showing you don't have confidence to even explain why you did get kicked, ergo making you look like an entitled clown.

Also don't even start bringing up a split argument about q times on Crystal or whatever the heck you're going on about. The only reason I brought Crystal up is that is was completely unneeded and made you look like you were treating the majority of the Data Center like they do it frequently, making your overall argument more biased and in turn less compelling. You're having enough trouble dealing with this reimbursement problem and adding another completely different debate to the mix is gonna make it even worse for you on a moral standpoint.

[Alklios]

Yet you still decided to edit your first post to take it completely out of your narrative. If it didn't bother you at all and you're neutral about it why not keep that part in?

Your cries for rational debate got thrown out the window the moment you told you us you got vote kicked but never explained why. That's a Part of the 5 W's for a reason, man. Hell even every post about negative GM interactions on here a person will know flat out why they're getting banned and will usually explain why to convey their message about why it was wrong. You decided to just say something on the lines of "We got into an argument" which is an vague as all hell statement which provokes more questions then answers. Not giving us an explanation is just showing you don't have confidence to even explain why you did get kicked, ergo making you look like an entitled clown.

Also don't even start bringing up a split argument about q times on Crystal or whatever the heck you're going on about. The only reason I brought Crystal up is that is was completely unneeded and made you look like you were treating the majority of the Data Center like they do it frequently, making your overall argument more biased and in turn less compelling. You're having enough trouble dealing with this reimbursement problem and adding another completely different debate to the mix is gonna make it even worse for you on a moral standpoint.

I removed it because of the toxic fixation on it and feedback that it was the the majority thing people were willing to discuss, and apparently ignoring thread title. If folk want to leap around like apes banging on the same dead horse that is wanting source on my kick, they won't have it. It doesn't exist. The fact I'm being criticized for wanting to edit a post to make it more concise and relevant, further proves the circle jerk which you are a part of, good sir. What do you want -- conciseness, or possibly irrelevant information?

So do us a favor and keep to thread title.

[Alklios]

I will be waiting for the GM's decision because that is the only one that will matter because aside from myself they are the only one with full context of the situation. The input I am recieving here is counter productive and has grown hostile without reason. Have a good day.

[HyoMinPark]

I removed it because of the toxic fixation on it and feedback that it was the the majority thing people were willing to discuss, and apparently ignoring thread title. If folk want to leap around like apes banging on the same dead horse that is wanting source on my kick, they won't have it. It doesn't exist. The fact I'm being criticized for wanting to edit a post to make it more concise and relevant, further proves the circle jerk which you are a part of, good sir. What do you want -- conciseness, or possibly irrelevant information?

So do us a favor and keep to thread title.

When people address proposals, they look at the entirety of it. Not just the title. When people address anything, they read and analyze all of the content within. Are you seriously telling people to ignore your argument and agree to a statement with no additional information to go along with it? Because that’s not how things like this work...

As for waiting for a GM response—you’ll be waiting a while. Community managers rarely post in NA discussion threads.

[Noitems]

I will be waiting for the GM's decision because that is the only one that will matter because aside from myself they are the only one with full context of the situation.

Thank you Alklios, very cool!