Reasonable buff to war

[RadicalPesto]

Paladin is not actually going to get better shields with more block, everything above Ronkan shield has the exact same block stats, indicating they decided to put a cap on them. Also Paladin shouldn't be using Clemency in savage almost ever and even then, none of Warrior's self heals have Clemency's huge DPS cost.

[BarretOblivion]

Paladin is not actually going to get better shields with more block, everything above Ronkan shield has the exact same block stats, indicating they decided to put a cap on them. Also Paladin shouldn't be using Clemency in savage almost ever and even then, none of Warrior's self heals have Clemency's huge DPS cost.

Its an OPTION that they have. Should they? No. WAR equilibrium is as good as one auto attack from a savage boss. Completely throw it out if you want to argue survivablity for 1 basic attack. If a WAR sees a healer die and the other healer needs to focus on the group insteand of themselves, a WAR can easily die because their self heal maybe frequent, its also extremely limited. A PLD can sit there for 10 secs and just spam clemency keeping themselves or even helping others stay alive if this situation arises.
Holmgang in this tier is exceptionally bad except for leviathan, in Titan WAR is the worst tank of all of them. You have to use cooldowns to survive the first stonecrusher THEN holmgang the 2nd two making healers have to hal you up to full before the tank buster and then AGAIN right afterwards in order for you not to die.

Don't use WARs except for maybe Leviathan, just don't. This is coming from a WAR main.

[Nhisso]

Warrior needs its dps stance back. That's the real problem. It's great im untouchable when questing, but the damage is embarrassing. It's not fun chipping away at regular mobs.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

in Titan WAR is the worst tank of all of them. You have to use cooldowns to survive the first stonecrusher THEN holmgang the 2nd two making healers have to hal you up to full before the tank buster and then AGAIN right afterwards in order for you not to die.

You make it sound a lot worse than it really is, to be honest. Pre-heals and Nascent Flash are all you need in order to stay healthy for the first Stonecrusher (which is the only one WAR should be taking). You also don't need much mitigation at all to survive it from full HP. If you have some gear upgrades, you actually don't need anything at all.

Don't use WARs except for maybe Leviathan, just don't. This is coming from a WAR main.

This is a poor attitude. WAR performs fine, if not better than fine, for the entirety of the tier; use it if you so desire.

The only fight where I think WAR actually kind of struggles is E4S, but that's entirely because of Inner Release timings.

[RadicalPesto]

Warrior needs its dps stance back. That's the real problem. It's great im untouchable when questing, but the damage is embarrassing. It's not fun chipping away at regular mobs.

The DPS of all tanks was proportionally reduced (in comparison to DPS classes) this expansion, and its clearly a deliberate decision taken at the level of invisible damage formulas. It's unlikely they will reverse this for any tanks, so the problem is universal among tanks and likely to stay.

[NyneSwordz]

The DPS of all tanks was proportionally reduced (in comparison to DPS classes) this expansion, and its clearly a deliberate decision taken at the level of invisible damage formulas. It's unlikely they will reverse this for any tanks, so the problem is universal among tanks and likely to stay.

Warrior dps feel SO LOW before 80 and inner chaos. And it doesnt feel good that damage outside of fell cleave and inner chaos feels terrible...

[Noctisnine]

Warrior doesn't need any buffs, he needs storms eye to last longer and thats it.

[NyneSwordz]

Warrior doesn't need any buffs, he needs storms eye to last longer and thats it.

Nascent flash party requirement also sucks. Self heal should work without party member.

[whiskeybravo]

Self heal should work without party member.

It does, Equilibrium. Nascent Flash is party support, not a personal self heal. I get that it's nice self healing in dungeons and when it lines up with IC or IR, to me it just seems way more complicated waiting for those opportunities in raids compared to just taking the mitigation from RI. I've gone through this whole raid tier without using NF. Maybe that's shame on me but whatever, I MT like 95% of the time so it's just easier to use RI. I'm not trying for orange healing logs.

The only fight where I think WAR actually kind of struggles is E4S, but that's entirely because of Inner Release timings.

Yea IR get's a bit wanky. Only real solution I could come up with is burning it on CD so it stays lined up with other raid buffs. Maybe not optimal, but neither is getting stuck at the back out of melee range with a colored marker. More or less determined by RNG either way.

[Izsha]

Yeah i just gamble my IR in the 2nd phase. There is no good alternative. Although life got much hetter when i realized you can still atrack from 9 and 12 squares by standing on the last pixel of the corner. Hitting from there makes the odds of getting screwed really low, but still possible.

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1st phase is annoying, but doable to get all the IRs. 2nd phase has a little rng. Blue back corner is just bad luck. Final phase is ez IR windows.

And wouldnt you know ky 1st clear dropped a drk sword. Guess whos going dark next week lol.