Tactful ways to inform people that they're playing badly?

[Valderen]

There seems to be an assumption or expectation that people should go online to read guides and stuff, and many people don't do that, a lot don't even know they exist...they just play the game, and have nothing to do with the game outside of the time they press "play" and "exit game".

I've played on and off with the same people since EQ1, some 20 years ago across various games, and to this day I know some who have never read a guide for their class, or guide for dungeons or raids. The most they've done is get add-ons, or read up on where a piece of gear drops. For the most part they just play the game and enjoy figuring out stuff on their own, which part of the fun for them. I respect that, even if sometimes it's frustrating.

The thing is, we cannot expect all the people to play the game the same way, to put the same effort into. There's different people who enjoy different things, or course it's frustrating sometimes because we're all thrown in together.

At the end of the day, if you solo queue for duties, or don't have a pre-made group then the reality is that you should be ready for this and accept it. If you're not, then you're probably going to have a very bad time for a very long time because it's not going to change EVER.

When I queue solo for a dungeons, I fully prepared to die a few times learning fights if someone is new, or that the dungeon might take 30-40 minutes instead of a quick 20 because of new or bad players. I find myself having a much better experience if I don't go in expecting a perfect run all the time, much less stressful too.

[Dreakon13]

There seems to be an assumption or expectation that people should go online to read guides and stuff, and many people don't do that, a lot don't even know they exist...they just play the game, and have nothing to do with the game outside of the time they press "play" and "exit game".

I stand by the fact that "googling" for this game isn't as cut and dry as some are making it out to be. There's a reason why I leveled Maurader to 15 for no reason a few weeks ago thinking I needed it to unlock Dragoon. It wasn't for lack of effort.

[monk-dps]

I stand by the fact that "googling" for this game isn't as cut and dry as some are making it out to be. There's a reason why I leveled Maurader to 15 for no reason a few weeks ago thinking I needed it to unlock Dragoon. It wasn't for lack of effort.

The funny thing about google is that sometimes, not all but sometimes you can get different results based on your info google has. I don't have hard core facts on it but there have been times me and someone else googled the same thing only to be met with different results. But I think that's based on ADs and what info google has tracked for you/of you. For guides on this game you do come up with alot of -old- advice, but the actual best way is to search on reddit and or various discords. Because yeah google isn't perfect and while you can get up to date info, there are times you get 4.0 guides for classes in 5.0. It happened to me on monk so I know you're not wrong.

[Valderen]

The funny thing about google is that sometimes, not all but sometimes you can get different results based on your info google has. I don't have hard core facts on it but there have been times me and someone else googled the same thing only to be met with different results. But I think that's based on ADs and what info google has tracked for you/of you. For guides on this game you do come up with alot of -old- advice, but the actual best way is to search on reddit and or various discords. Because yeah google isn't perfect and while you can get up to date info, there are times you get 4.0 guides for classes in 5.0. It happened to me on monk so I know you're not wrong.

Are you saying that when you google "FF14 Bunny Girl", you're not all getting porn and playboy related results with nothing to do with FF14?

[monk-dps]

Are you saying that when you google "FF14 Bunny Girl", you're not all getting porn and playboy related results with nothing to do with FF14?

I'm going to google that and see what shows up on my phone... one second. - pulls out phone to google...- lol. Nope.. I just got alot of pictures of vieras ingame in their default gear. Wish I could screencap this but I'm on a PS4 so no go.