Tactful ways to inform people that they're playing badly?

[Arete-Nomos]

Don't bother trying to instruct people. People can report literally anything that makes them upset as "griefing" and it can get you banned.

And SE follows through with it. A friend of mine was sent to GM gaol for saying "You know you don't need to bait Freecure anymore; your mana hasn't gone below 50% this whole dungeon." This was after dying to a pull where the WHM was only using Cure 1. The jerk proceeds to spam Cure 2 on him until out of mana, make some snide remark, and reported him afterwards. The only other thing my friend said the whole dungeon was /cheer to the WHM upon duty completion.

So yeah, the rules are BS and reports are based on whim.

[Zeonx]

That's great but usually people think they are good try to blame the person who is last alive in the party and they say they are holding them back which isn't the case its a excuse.

Examples would be.

your DPS is too low
you don't dodge
you are under geared
you don't stack fast enough

Funny thing is its the blame game and I have seen it a lot.

This is why I don't I said what I said.

For example let me give you an idea what I mean, there was a party I was in and of course I wasn't messing up but they were all fighting, so I stood back while they argued in the fight about who is dodging what and why are they dying so they had a group of friends as group I meant 2 out of the bunch and arguing with few others.

first match the guy blames someone for not doing the fight correctly and that he died near the end, then next thing you know it the guy who blamed the guy dies and still blames the guy even after he dodged the mechanic he was yelling about.
then friends double team yelling at guy next match both the 2 die then party starts falling apart then they calm down try to talk about it and fail again at this point its over.

the moral of the story is people think they are good aren't so good either and they sit here and they explain oh I am good at this fight I beat it millions of times but die more than a guy who just entered the fight then elitist comment would be your dps is too low or I would of won or I wouldn't of died, typical response to someone who doesn't want to admit he is just as bad.

Even if you explain something sometimes it doesn't work out its best to let them learn the fight the more you yell at them the more people get frustrated and mess up more and there goes the fight its disbanded cause you know and I know it never works out very well when someone else tells someone how to do their job because it ends up in a brawl.

[Yunuen]

Most of the time I just ignore it and put up with it. I've had a lot of instances of people using single-target skills when it'd be more effective to use AoEs, but I just deal. That being said, I really appreciated when someone told me I was doing my BLM rotation wrong when I started playing. They weren't rude about it, just like "Hey, it's better if you do this for your rotation".

[Mirassou]

I don't think you need to tell people they're bad (at least not in regular DF). If you are talking extreme or savage+, okay.

But if you are talking regular duties, just ... don't

[Alleo]

I don't think you need to tell people they're bad (at least not in regular DF). If you are talking extreme or savage+, okay.

But if you are talking regular duties, just ... don't

But what if people just dont know that they are bad? If the advice is given in a nice matter without any personal attacks, people can at least choose if they want to use this or not. Heck when I was an Astro in the MSQ roulette and used the first stance the whitemage then later told me that its better to use the other one if you are with a whitemage. At that time I knew it (but was not 100% sure on it) and told her that but that I also choose it because quite some whitemages I ran with barely used their healing over time skills and thus we started a nice talk about healing while waiting for the end of the cutscenes. If I had not known it, it would have been a very great advice because it is important in other content.

So I disagree with never giving advice in regular duties. Its imo just the matter on how to write it and if people dont want to take the advice than at least you tried your best to teach them. But if you dont then they might later complain that nobody ever told them that they did something wrong.

[Vulcann]

i have always said this in every game

if you are not in the guild that they are in or friends with you. then just shut up and deal with them sucking, you are a nobody and why should i take advice from a nobody? why people feel the need to give unsolicited advice is beyond me. I play paladin and on my summoner i have seen some terrible paladins, but its not my place to tell them because i am not an expert at the class either ... and you are probably not an expert or as good at the class you play that you think you are.

[RoyalBeef]

you are a nobody and why should i take advice from a nobody?

[Vulcann]

but its the truth, you probably aren't as good as you think you are and even if you are the "top parser" of your guild i don't know that, no one knows who you are ... so why should they listen to you.

you are a random nobody.

[AxHell]

but its the truth, you probably aren't as good as you think you are and even if you are the "top parser" of your guild i don't know that, no one knows who you are ... so why should they listen to you.

you are a random nobody.

Careful son you might cut yourself with all that edge

[Rhus]

you are a random nobody.

Sounds like you're trying to channel your inner Emet-Selch.

"You are a mistake. For we who have known perfection, this shattered class and these parses are ghastly mockeries of the true player" or something like that.