Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

buying a magazine to show how much you want male viera seems like a good waste of money. Especially when we won't/shouldn't get it

I disagree with the 1st part. Its their money, they can spend it however they want. Nobody has a say in that.
On that 2nd part...as much as I personally Agree we shouldn't get Male Viera, it can still happen.

[Billythepancake]

I don''t see why people are so against it. Do I think there are bigger issues the devs should tackle first? (things like healers being more boring than sin) Sure, but like, if you don't like male viera/female hrogthar just, don't play them. Just because you're allergic doesn't mean I can't have peanut butter. Nothing wrong with more options for the game.

[Kobalos]

and that's why it's good we don't have male viera. It protects the game.

How does not adding Magic Mike buns protect the game?
Like theres already DOS attacks and a bot infestation XD

[Lunavi]

I don''t see why people are so against it. Do I think there are bigger issues the devs should tackle first? (things like healers being more boring than sin) Sure, but like, if you don't like male viera/female hrogthar just, don't play them. Just because you're allergic doesn't mean I can't have peanut butter. Nothing wrong with more options for the game.

In part because people want other stuff to be focused on. To be fair I would LOVE a new race that is not a furry-race to be added over just more furries, such as Pixies for example. But also in part because they are so annoyed by a vocal few who takes it too far to the point where they just appear as trolls at best.

You just need to go to the first page of this thread to see a person who outright accuses the dev team for being homophobes for not adding male Viera (even though they actually added male Hrotghar that is extremely bara appealing). Not that I agree with this mentality of not wanting something out of spite, But some people makes it really really hard to support this cause even though I understand why it is something they should do, even though I would never touch it.

[MrKusakabe]

After analyzing a large amount of posts here, I kept frowning more and more. I am not sure if disgusting is the right word to use here as it is strong, but there is such an intense and concentrated amount of ill-intend here coming from the opposing fraction that reminds me of children. And I am not talking about the pro-♂ Viera side here..

The first reason why this thread exists is absolutely valid and justified. Lore and money reasons are bullocks. Both are not true and have been proven to be wrong in either this thread or by the simple fact this game is expensive and makes great revenue. Period.

So, now after this is out of the way, I am of course supporting ♂ Viera. This incomplete-ness is fine for an alpha/beta game on Crowdfunding basis or Early Access games. Not for one well-known, expensive AAA title within probably the biggest video game franchise ever. I do not mind as if they are added soon or later as I am the pinnacle of evolution already: A Lalafell. but I can't wrap my head around why ♂ Viera are portraied as the end of the world. And this thread can't even explain it either. While the ♂ Viera advocats have a valid reason (the lack of the missing gender which is a simple fact), the opposition comes in here, hijacks a thread and basically constantly mocks ♂ Viera supporters. And this is the "disgusting" part of it.

Especially when you see "defmatel", a Viera, being so vocal about it. Her reasoning is the same as Marie Antoinette's. You can look up her famous quote if it does not ring a bell. And she has lots of supporters apparently. Then you have the same crowd (about 10 upvoters) portraying ♂ Viera supporters as "terrorists", "children throwing tantrums" etc. For something that is a fact - ♂ Viera are not in the game, a game that removed gender restrictions in the past and called them bad.

The hijackers - I call these people for invading this thread just to cause mad beef, not so much about having a real discussion about ridiculous genderlock - let's be honest here: The majority of you are Nelson sort of types basically pointing and yelling "HA HA" in this thread whenever it gets bumped. It is a discussion forums open for everyone, but coming into a ♂ Viera support thread just to mock and mass-upvote anti-♂ Viera posts over and over, really?. If you are happy with your current species, why do you come here in a "Show your support" thread just not to show support? This is mindboggling and vile. After so many pages, this thread has been destabilized by happy players who don't think they themselves don't want ♂ Viera and turned this whole thing into throwing stones back and forth, almost like real life politics destroying whole countries by causing a mess from the outside.

Really, just pick a random page and read the next 5 pages. You will find the ♂ Viera supporters constantly being pushed into the "whiner" corner by female Viera or player who are not even have a business being here (as happy Hrtoghar, why do you come in a ♂ Viera support thread apart from throwing rocks?)

And that is the worst part of derailing a very valid point: Getting ♂ Viera in here! Which I support.

Sincerely,

[Kobalos]

Her reasoning is the same as Marie Antoinette's. You can look up her famous quote if it does not ring a bell

I hate to be *that* person but Marie Antoinette never said that - That pharse was coined before she was even born and was pro revolutionary propaganda - Sorry Shes a bit of a personal hero of mine *trundles off back into her hidey hole*

[Awha]

". . . [W]hy [male] Viera are portrayed as the end of the world."

From my perspective I do not see the idea of male viera being the cause or reason for the hate, think it comes more into the play how the minority of male viera supporters come annoying to say the least. Sadly, people tend to place more importance on the negative actors in a discussion because negative actions tend to have a lasting effect on people.

I honestly think if supporters of Male Viera came to terms with the fact from the start that nothing of major important regarding the added gender properly will not happen until 6.0 the earliest and let sleeping dogs lay until closer till the next expansion people would have less on an issue. Also removing the image of child / adolescent in the OP may also help the image of the thread / supporters.

Guess way I see it everything boils down to image, and the sub set of male viera supporters may have left a not so pleasant taste in the mouth of many. Do not get me wrong I still support more options and hope round out each race in due time.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

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If you support Male Viera, then support it. Nothing should stop you otherwise.
Whining about the Opposite side not agreeing with you is More Childish then a disagreement.

[zeylos]

I don''t see why people are so against it. Do I think there are bigger issues the devs should tackle first? (things like healers being more boring than sin) Sure, but like, if you don't like male viera/female hrogthar just, don't play them. Just because you're allergic doesn't mean I can't have peanut butter. Nothing wrong with more options for the game.

male viera and fem hrot should not be a main priority, just a secondary one for them to be able to release them on 6.0. Rushing them isnt a good solution and forgetting about other stuff is neither a good solution. Imo, what SE should do is slowly work on male viera and fem hrot and then on 5.3-5.4 make them a focus so they can be ready for 6.0

[zeylos]

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you literally defined what goes on in this thread and why Im 90000000x times less active than I used to be when this was still a valid thread in the forums