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  1. #201
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    Leone Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
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    That's the spirit
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  2. #202
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    Sony Vaio
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    Considering the backlash is even greater than the genderlocked bunny suits I would have a hard time believing they would never respond to the criticism. We might have to wait until 5.4 or 6.0 or however long, but I think we will eventually get male viera. It's best to stay positive about it considering they've listened to fans before, as frustrating as it is that they would falter back to this regressive attitude AGAIN.
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  3. #203
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    Jadasif Ren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    That's the spirit
    That's correct supporting the positive way is indeed the spirit! Goodbye negativity!
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  4. #204
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    Leone Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by cipherthevideo View Post
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    yes, male viera might be implemented if the support remains this high
    and if people request male viera in person, perhaps during a fanfest or q&a, even better
    as long as people don't stop talking about male viera, I think it will happen
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  5. #205
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    Vari Myste
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    Quote Originally Posted by cipherthevideo View Post
    It's best to stay positive about it considering they've listened to fans before, as frustrating as it is that they would falter back to this regressive attitude AGAIN.
    Part of me knew going in that we wouldn't be seeing male viera, but an even larger part couldn't accept that until I actually saw it.

    It was unbelievable to think they could miss the mark this badly, and so deliberately too. I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. It's a bad design, development, and business decision all around, not to mention a huge disservice to the players and a betrayal of trust.

    I can't understand this decision.
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  6. #206
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    Jaou Stormchaser
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    That's correct supporting the positive way is indeed the spirit! Goodbye negativity!
    ^^^

    That's salient point when talking about such topics. Keep the comments positive, constructive, and courteous. Don't let the rage get the best of one's self.
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  7. #207
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    this but unironically
    For clarification, my comment was unironic too. I just didn't feel like I needed to go more in depth when many other people have already done a fine job explaining why SE's actions are dumb.
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  8. #208
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    Aoki Kha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Honestly I wish they had just said Viera are born from the wood and are always female rather than getting people's hopes up by specifically saying males exist...
    If they had gone this route I would have preferred that they made them a "genderless" race and androgynous by design. That way players could make their bunnies male or female or however they like.

    Either way I doubt making them 100% female race as you suggest would quell requests for male versions. Certainly not for me.
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  9. #209
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinklet View Post
    Hey SE just model and design two more models and all the thousands of armour sets ontop of them in three months please.

    tyvm
    ..and that is what i meant when i said it was short sided to do so in the previous thread... This was always going to be the result of of gender locking any race. The demand will always be there to undo this kind of thing and rightly so.

    Male Viera were expected Hrothgar in every form was not asked for, by introducing both in such limited capacities they have only redoubled their work load having to fix an issue where there needed be none.
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    Last edited by Alacran; 03-24-2019 at 07:36 PM.

  10. #210
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    Ryoku Kazemoto
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    Yes, please implement male viera when it is feasible to do so. I was nearly holding my breath from the Paris Fanfest to the keynote today, dreading and hoping... I am disappointed by this choice to reinforce an unfortunately limited lens through which to interpret masculinity and femininity. FFXIV is groundbreaking in many ways, offering challenging stories and thoughtful and nuanced treatment of many difficult topics, as well as laudable egalitarianism in certain respects. It's not perfect, but it is valuable nevertheless. This announcement felt like a step in a very wrong direction. Please amend this.

    (P.S. I also feel that it would also be most balanced to also offer a Hrothgar female model that is equally as bestial in appearance and powerful in build as their male counterparts.)
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