NIN in 5.1

[Tex_Mex]

Is anyone else scared of what may happen to NIN in 5.1?

I may be in the minority here, but I actually like the current iteration of NIN. It may be a hot mess of buttons in the opener, but once you are into its normal rotation it is very enjoyable to me. Since the potency increases in 5.05, NIN seems to be in a pretty decent place right now.

I would like to hear some other opinions on both the current iteration of NIN, and what changes (if any) you would like to see.

[Arkenne]

The one thing they mentioned to be considering was that GCDs would no longer bunny Ninjutsus. Altho they also mentioned that would mean a recalculation of the NIN over all DPS, that has been an all timer cause of grief for the job's feel. Specially because of its Lag sensitivity.

If anything it would make it even more Narutoeske.

[Neela]

Since the potency increases in 5.05, NIN seems to be in a pretty decent place right now.

"Pretty decent"? - the hot fix pot adjust was overkill while not touching TA in any kind... being the 4th(?) strongest cls atm? with 2nd best utility in the game...

yeah... I would call that "decent" as well... imo they just should get rid of TA or hand it over to Brd to give Nin a slight chance to be balance for once... : /

[Siete]

"Pretty decent"? - the hot fix pot adjust was overkill while not touching TA in any kind... being the 4th(?) strongest cls atm? with 2nd best utility in the game...

yeah... I would call that "decent" as well... imo they just should get rid of TA or hand it over to Brd to give Nin a slight chance to be balance for once... : /

BUT I LIKE TRICK ATTACK AAAAAAAAAAAA
I like NIN like it is now, I enjoy it.

[aiqa]

"Pretty decent"? - the hot fix pot adjust was overkill while not touching TA in any kind... being the 4th(?) strongest cls atm? with 2nd best utility in the game...

yeah... I would call that "decent" as well... imo they just should get rid of TA or hand it over to Brd to give Nin a slight chance to be balance for once... : /

Please provide an example where NIN rDPS is to high compared to other melee classes.

[Tex_Mex]

"Pretty decent"? - the hot fix pot adjust was overkill while not touching TA in any kind... being the 4th(?) strongest cls atm? with 2nd best utility in the game...

yeah... I would call that "decent" as well... imo they just should get rid of TA or hand it over to Brd to give Nin a slight chance to be balance for once... : /

Even after the potency changes, NIN is still ranking #5 in overall rdps, behind BLM, MNK, DRG, and SAM. This is a comfortably decent spot IMO.


To be fair, I would like to see the bottom performing classes brought up a bit so that everything is more competitive. BRD, RDM, DNC, and SMN could use some help.

[Neela]

Please provide an example where NIN rDPS is to high compared to other melee classes.

who said i compare Nin with other melees? Actually the intention at launch was right Nin & Dnc at bottom due to TA & steps - sure Nin aDps was a bit too low yeah but with TA untouched the pot adjusts were bit over the top : /

[aiqa]

who said i compare Nin with other melees? Actually the intention at launch was right Nin & Dnc at bottom due to TA & steps - sure Nin aDps was a bit too low yeah but with TA untouched the pot adjusts were bit over the top : /

At the bottom of what? Bottom of the aDPS or the rDPS charts. If you're talking about rDPS (which is the metric that is important) you're not making any sense, if you're talking about aDPS... well you shouldn't.

[Vendalwind]

Nin should, with how abilities and utility is currently spread, have the highest RDPS at high percentiles. And lowest RDPS at low percentile given the fluction of his buff (of melee classes)

But at any percentile he should have the lowest ADPS of any melee.

Currently melee are decrntly balanced with the exception of monk. But in a perfect balance world my initial two statements should be true.

And dont you say this shouldnt be true because of trick. Trick is a damage utility buff. It it doesnt provide more damage than other classes without, then it is a pointless buff that adds extra difficulty to the whole team with no actual reward. Nin has no current utility outside of damage utility.

[MerlinCross]

Just revert the aggro changes and we’ll be in demand again