Ranged DPS role is about to be excluded from all content

[Neela]

I actually agree with this.
Some jobs are almost perfect atm (blm as example) the other jobs should see tweaks possibly to gameplay, utilities and dmg to bring the gap closer

one should be carful with statements like this... blm is fine now if u compare him with the other underrated cls atm... but voices will raise if the dmg gap will shrink - cause "blm has to stand out with his dmg due to lack of utility" phrase. now what if mnk and blm just would be ahead of 200-300 dps again? is blm broke again in that scenario? I bet half of the comm would say so... - so yeah blm is fine as long others lack - but where the border between overturned and undertuned raw dps cls like sam/blm? is it like in the early days? a few hundred? or like atm a few thousands?... Blm will never be "perfect" if all other cls would be balanced right.

[Akiudo]

one should be carful with statements like this... blm is fine now if u compare him with the other underrated cls atm... but voices will raise if the dmg gap will shrink - cause "blm has to stand out with his dmg due to lack of utility" phrase. now what if mnk and blm just would be ahead of 200-300 dps again? is blm broke again in that scenario? I bet half of the comm would say so... - so yeah blm is fine as long others lack - but where the border between overturned and undertuned raw dps cls like sam/blm? is it like in the early days? a few hundred? or like atm a few thousands?... Blm will never be "perfect" if all other cls would be balanced right.

to be fair, compared to "the early days" we now have a way better tool to actually compare the dps classes actually bring to the raid, fflogs listing raid dps (which isn't perfect and has its own set of problems) is vastly superior to simply listing the damage a class did in an actual fight like it did before shadowbringers and the "utility" (dmg buffs are included in the raid dps metric so they can be ignored) in actuality only the phys ranged dps had is basically gone completly.

mind you i'm not saying there is zero utility, or that it should be ignored completly because its so little left, but addle is basically the shorter cooldown version of troubadour/samba/tactician considering it works on most stuff and if it does works the same at half the cooldown, if anything any class could use some "personal utility" not much, just like a single skill that class has that is highly situational and may come in handy once every blue moon but probably won't. And yes, that runs counter to the "selfish dps" type, but considering everything they took away from bard/mch its pretty safe to say there are no utility jobs anymore