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  1. #201
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    When you have a 7/8 static for weekly Eden Savage clears and it takes an hour+ sometimes for each floor to find 1 healer I'd say that healing is at an all time low it's been like this since the start of the raid tier its taking so long to find just 1.
    (15)

  2. #202
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    Dioltas's Avatar
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    Dioltas Reomhar
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Yep. Very little interest in healing now. Dpsing was what kept me interested during dungeons. Now I semi afk most runs just topping up the tank as needed. They want healers to only heal. Ok. So be it. I dont know if savage content will test healers skills but no other content is interesting as healer now.
    Saying that I have alternated warrior/scholar main since the start and this exp I took Gunbreaker as my first class. Scholar is not fun anymore. So why play something thats not fun. It's a chore to play and I've borderline quit the game now. At least until there's more MSQ to play. Apart from a brilliant MSQ and amazing soundtrack this exp has little else going for it long term wise.
    (12)

  3. #203
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    Kinks's Avatar
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    Character
    Mana Kane
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I played for the MSQ and I went with my scholar as I hope she will eventually go back to normal; I only play her for hubby/friends otherwise I haven't been on FF much at all anymore. I used to be happy to derp around and run instances randomly, now I'm pretty hesitant. It's just not as fun or engaging anymore. I miss all the cool skills scholar had, the feel of it- I'm not talking about some OP stuff, just I really loved having bane, and miasma was fun too to weave in, and iforgetthataoedpswe dropped anyways that was nifty too to have that button to click in between heals.

    now i'm either half asleep or spastic healing with a gibbled fairy.
    (13)

  4. #204
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    SayNoToSteam's Avatar
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    Character
    Conniption Fit
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    May as well have quit the game entirely over these changes. The only thing that makes quitting hard is all the friends I have made over the last 5 years playing this game. I loved playing healer but now when I play it I feel like a servant. Goodday master are you in the mood for mechanics today if not it doesn't matter because I'm a pure healer now.
    (13)

  5. #205
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    Lodi's Avatar
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    Eijala Wyman
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    So I stopped playing for a few weeks, then came back to play with DPS/Tank classes. And goodness, it's another world.

    I feel a lot better playing RDM and occasionally using Vercure to help the healer, it's so much better than spamming Stone XVIII and using one of my dozen OGCDs when the tank stubs his toe.

    Maybe 5.1 will make me want to play again, but I don't really have my hopes up after yet another LL with nothing for us.
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    Last edited by Lodi; 09-17-2019 at 11:42 PM.

  6. #206
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    tesni_g's Avatar
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    Tesni Ginlimian
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    This thread has been going strong for almost two months now, which is not surprising given the state of healing. We're definitely smaller community than we were, to the point it's affected the overall community. I feel like tanks and dps even talk about healers differently now than they used to. We're all walking around on eggshells worried that our healer friends are on the verge of quitting.

    The only thing I haven't quit is level 80 healing. I can put up with it a few hours a week with people I like. The boring sameness of healing is a worthwhile personal sacrifice to make for my group, so that no one waits for that pug healer to choose us out of the 15 other groups that are "7/8 static needs healer tonight."

    Healing is a sacrifice I make so my friends can play.
    (9)

  7. #207
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lodi View Post
    So I stopped playing for a few weeks, then came back to play with DPS/Tank classes. And goodness, it's another world.

    I feel a lot better playing RDM and occasionally using Vercure to help the healer, it's so much better than spamming Stone XVIII and using one of my dozen OGCDs when the tank stubs his toe.

    Maybe 5.1 will make me want to play again, but I don't really have my hopes up after yet another LL with nothing for us.
    I feel you.
    I sort of "had to" switch to a dps because we had too many tanks and healers in our incomplete static and PF etc. was full of more tanks and healers looking for statics so everyone who was in the mood to do so brought a dps to 80 to make recruiting easier. So I leveled RDM on a hunch (the backflips got me.. and the job quest npc) and after running countless leveling dungeons, experts to cap tomes, doing some extremes and E1S and E2S practice I don't really want to go back.
    There is just not enough to keep myself busy when everything is mostly under control. The only time the fun starts is when shit hits the fan and breaks the Glare/ Broil/ Malefic routine. But regular boss fights in a half-decent party always feel like a slog because nothing is happening.
    (7)

  8. #208
    Player
    Lodi's Avatar
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    Eijala Wyman
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    The only time the fun starts is when shit hits the fan and breaks the Glare/ Broil/ Malefic routine. But regular boss fights in a half-decent party always feel like a slog because nothing is happening.
    This is, imo, the biggest problem with the current healers and how fights work.

    Our kits are only fun when shit hits the fan, and I felt amazing in extreme situations where I needed to rez 6 people while keeping the tank and myself alive.
    But this only ever happens when running extremely recent content, when not everyone knows the fight well and overall gear level is the bare minimum.

    In extreme/savage content, you aren't supposed to let shit hit the fan, because that means there won't be enough dps and the fight will end in a wipe anyways. Or you'll be killed by a mechanic that required everyone to be alive.
    In everything else, two healers are way more than enough, to the point some content will litterally not even require a single healing spell.

    Our healing kits make it look like we're supposed to keep entire armies alive against the very hordes of hell, but everything is so easy we barely need to use anything else than CDs.


    A PLD friend of mine who recently cleared E4S told me that we need tons of healing in this fight. Cool!
    Imagine telling a new healer that they need to go through four huge storylines back to back and then spend weeks on the first three raids before finally seeing a fight that "justifies" having 75% of your kit being copies of the same heals.
    (7)

  9. #209
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    MerlinCross's Avatar
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    Character
    Lavitz Orlandeau
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    I dunno if I’ve quit healing but at the same time I really don’t have a drive to level a healer.

    Maybe for the questline
    (0)

  10. #210
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lodi View Post
    A PLD friend of mine who recently cleared E4S told me that we need tons of healing in this fight. Cool!
    Imagine telling a new healer that they need to go through four huge storylines back to back and then spend weeks on the first three raids before finally seeing a fight that "justifies" having 75% of your kit being copies of the same heals.
    Funny part is, E4S doesn't even require THAT much healing outside of the very last phase. Every phase before that you're spamming DPS abilities 90% of the time, it isn't until the last 3 minutes of the fight where suddenly heals get bonkers. It's only healing that gets rough though, they make the actual mechanics of phase 3 really easy to compensate for healers having to heal. Honestly, a pretty standard fight up until that point.
    (6)
    Last edited by Billythepancake; 09-18-2019 at 03:39 AM.

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